Classic Shape RR 4.3 LSE
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I am at present looking for a tow car and have been informed of a M plate 4.3 LSE for sale with 83K. I wasnt considering a classic shape but it seems cheep and will do what I need it to do (tow approx 2000kg).It has an air suspension and LPG conversion.
Can any one tell me about these RR or where to point the browser for more info.
Can any one tell me about these RR or where to point the browser for more info.
hmmm ....
LSEs were the last of the "classic" shape, with all the bells and whistles. The air suspension and electronics have got a bit of a reputation, but I know plenty of people who have had no trouble whatsoever.
A good place to start would be LRE forum here and links shown on there by members.
Yes, you could get a Land Cruiser, but there's a lot of knowledge out there to help you if you do decide on the RR road.
LSEs were the last of the "classic" shape, with all the bells and whistles. The air suspension and electronics have got a bit of a reputation, but I know plenty of people who have had no trouble whatsoever.
A good place to start would be LRE forum here and links shown on there by members.
Yes, you could get a Land Cruiser, but there's a lot of knowledge out there to help you if you do decide on the RR road.
zumbruk said:
I'm with "mustard". The LSE's have a terrible reputation. Besides, they're like a tart's boudoir inside. Much better off getting a boggo RR.
(I've owned 3 RR's and currently have a V8 Disco. Wouldn't touch an LSE with a long pole.)
I wouldnt touch one with somebody else's long pole
LOLI had a look today and a drive of the car with a friend with somerange rover experience. All electrics were fine and drove well. General condition good with lpg tank in boot. No evidece of hard off road use but has had some. Is there anyone in South Oxford/South Bucks region that can do an inspection.
Thanks for the info both for and against.
Thanks for the info both for and against.
An M plate clasic will have the later dash with airbags and stuff, very much like a discovery dash (which is what it is!). I'm not too sure about it, but "soft dash" models tend to cost more.
Personally I like the classic shape more than the P38, and I like the LSE most of all, have done since it was launched. The extra trickery can give problems, but then again so can any extra bits on a car (starter motor? Pah, more to go wrong, just give me a cranking handle and I'll be happy!).
A few things to bear in mind.
You're likely to pay quite a lot more for a LSE than a standard or an SE. If you don't actually want an LSE, you may be better off with a standard. I think the P38 has the same wheelbase as the LSE, longer being better for towing.
Take care who did the LPG installation. There are some bad ones about and you may find it difficult to insure (not to mention unreliable and dangerous) if it was done by a cowboy!
And personally, I wouldn't want a RR with the tank in the boot, if I didn't want a decent boot I'd get a smaller car!
I looked for an LSE for quite a while, good ones tend to sell bloody quick!
Cheers and good luck whatever you decide
Andy
>> Edited by crimsonchim on Monday 9th February 13:47
Personally I like the classic shape more than the P38, and I like the LSE most of all, have done since it was launched. The extra trickery can give problems, but then again so can any extra bits on a car (starter motor? Pah, more to go wrong, just give me a cranking handle and I'll be happy!).
A few things to bear in mind.
You're likely to pay quite a lot more for a LSE than a standard or an SE. If you don't actually want an LSE, you may be better off with a standard. I think the P38 has the same wheelbase as the LSE, longer being better for towing.
Take care who did the LPG installation. There are some bad ones about and you may find it difficult to insure (not to mention unreliable and dangerous) if it was done by a cowboy!
And personally, I wouldn't want a RR with the tank in the boot, if I didn't want a decent boot I'd get a smaller car!
I looked for an LSE for quite a while, good ones tend to sell bloody quick!
Cheers and good luck whatever you decide
Andy
>> Edited by crimsonchim on Monday 9th February 13:47
rex said:
Forgot to ask on the last post. Does having LPG conversion (it has been done by reputable installer) add value to the car or does it detract as the boot is half taken up with cylinder?
Hmmm. Depends who's buying it!
Generally LPG adds less to the price of the car than people tend to think. LPG conversions can cost from £1k to £2.5k depending on the system used and the charge from the fitter, even the best systems are unlikely to add much to the cost of the car relative to what the work cost, but in general LPG RRs sell for a little bit more.
Well I've done the deal and purchaced it. I will pick it up in about 3 weeks as I don't need it yet and I have no room left to put it. I spoke to the garage who have looked after it for about 5 years and they told me it was a minter. As it will be my first foray into RR ownership I may be here for a few hints,tips and advice. Thanks again for your help and I will keep you posted on how it goes.
Great!
I'd be interested in your thoughts on LPG, still running mine on petrol, quite a lot of it actually.
It does about 16mpg average and has done pretty faultlessly for the 5 months/6000 miles I've had it. So LPG is looking quite attractive at the mo.
I like the shape of the RR classic, and the LSE doesn't look longer, it just looks less dumpy than the standard. Not that I don't love the standard one as well, before I upset anybody, I've had two of them over the years.
Cheers,
Andy
I'd be interested in your thoughts on LPG, still running mine on petrol, quite a lot of it actually.
It does about 16mpg average and has done pretty faultlessly for the 5 months/6000 miles I've had it. So LPG is looking quite attractive at the mo.
I like the shape of the RR classic, and the LSE doesn't look longer, it just looks less dumpy than the standard.
Not that I don't love the standard one as well, before I upset anybody, I've had two of them over the years. Cheers,
Andy
Picked up the RR 4.2 LSE yesterday. Was only going to use it as a tow car but having so much fun I may use it as my everyday car (as long as the wife doesn't get to it first). Chap I bought it off filled up the LPG tank and it cost £21. Said it should do approx 150 miles on this but i will let you know how it goes.
Only pain in the ass is the space it takes up in the boot but otherwise performance difference not noticeable. Is there meant to be a drop in power? I have heard different things from different people.
Also where is the best place to get decent overmats for the footwells? My RR aftermarket knowledge is very poor at the moment.
I will also try to get some pics done today.
Chuffed to bits would sum it up so far.
Only pain in the ass is the space it takes up in the boot but otherwise performance difference not noticeable. Is there meant to be a drop in power? I have heard different things from different people.
Also where is the best place to get decent overmats for the footwells? My RR aftermarket knowledge is very poor at the moment.
I will also try to get some pics done today.
Chuffed to bits would sum it up so far.
rex said:
Also where is the best place to get decent overmats for the footwells? My RR aftermarket knowledge is very poor at the moment.
www.johncraddockltd.co.uk
I know, 'cause I'm looking at getting some myself ;-)
rex said:
Picked up the RR 4.2 LSE yesterday. Was only going to use it as a tow car but having so much fun I may use it as my everyday car (as long as the wife doesn't get to it first).
Great, enjoy it!
rex said:
Chap I bought it off filled up the LPG tank and it cost £21. Said it should do approx 150 miles on this but i will let you know how it goes.
Only pain in the ass is the space it takes up in the boot but otherwise performance difference not noticeable. Is there meant to be a drop in power? I have heard different things from different people.
I've looked into this a lot and still haven't had it fitted to mine yet!
I think a basic LPG fitting (single point) will give you a loss in power. People like RPI offer goodies to get over this sutch as ignition amplifiers, fancy plug leads, programmed advance/retard (changes ignition timing when running on gas, changes back for petrol), etc.
Multi point sequential injection is more expensive both in parts and fitting. A gas injector is fitted to the manifold near to each petrol injector and a processor controls the injection pulses in sequence. This system claims almost no power loss.
Got to admit I've only driven the basic type and wasn't impressed with that!
Cheers,
Andy
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