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JSG

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2,238 posts

290 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2003
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In addition to the TD5 I've just bought this for a bit of weekend fun.

sagalout

18,893 posts

289 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2003
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Just a guess but looking at the background and the reg, Scottish Coastline poss on the west? You've reminded me of the last two weeks hol up there...

Been wondering about a Landie. Should I go pre 73 for no tax or post 73 for better handling/performance/ecomomy. It would be a second car, unless I can find somewhere to live up there in which case it would be only vehicle. Thinking cheapish purchase price. Any thoughts?

Bodo

12,421 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2003
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Nice car, JSG
sagalout said:
Been wondering about a Landie. Should I go pre 73 for no tax or post 73 for better handling/performance/ecomomy. It would be a second car, unless I can find somewhere to live up there in which case it would be only vehicle. Thinking cheapish purchase price. Any thoughts?
The technical difference between SIIa (1962...1971) and SIII (1971...1983) is not very big, if you choose to buy a four cylinder. The only major change was switching fom 3 mainbearing to 5 in the early eighties, but opinions which one is better are not clear. The only difference in ride/handling makes the wheelbase. 109 are more comfy, but not as agile as 88. A 1962 88 does virtually have no differences in handling to a 1983 88

IMHO the SIIa look nicer with their metal dashboard and headlights between wings, and tax exemption is a nice bonus

seaton

400 posts

261 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2003
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JSG that look's v'tidy, is it petrol?

sagalout As Bodo says there is very little difference between series 2 2a and 3 the bigest thing is all the series 2 and 2a's with the lights in the radiator psnel, have no syncro on 1st and 2nd (not a problem once you're used to it). IMO go for a series 2 or 2a they look nicer, don't buy on year though, buy on condition, a bad un will cost more to maintain, than the road tax and maintenance of a gud'un

sagalout

18,893 posts

289 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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When did they go to coil springs etc?
Are the S3 engines any more economical?
Questions Questions...

Guy Humpage

12,047 posts

291 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Coil springs came in with the 90 and 110 in 1983.

JSG

Original Poster:

2,238 posts

290 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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sagalout said:
Just a guess but looking at the background and the reg, Scottish Coastline poss on the west? You've reminded me of the last two weeks hol up there...


Good guess. The picture was taken at a friend's house on the Isle of Skye. It was being sold by someone he worked with for well under £2k and I agreed to buy it on the strength of 27 digital photos as it was better than anything else I'd seen even though it was 600 miles away.

I'd have liked a Series II, but this was too good to turn down. It's a 2.25 diesel and had the following in it's favour;

Recon engine and gearbox 18 months ago
New chassis 18 months ago
New exhaust (and new spare centre section and spare rear box)
New seats/mats
Tow bar + electrics
Front tow bar - locking pin type
New alternator
New heavy duty battery
New door tops
110 rims with 750's
spare wheels with new tyres (well 600 miles)
New spot lights
New seat boxes
New H/D springs
New floor pan
All glass runners replaced
New MOT
New propshaft / UJs

I flew up and drove it back last week, very noisy but the best ride I've ever had in a Series Landy.

The cab will go and be replaced by a full tilt to get some of the wind in the hair feel I've missed since having to sell the TVR earlier this year.

seaton

400 posts

261 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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sagalout said:
When did they go to coil springs etc?
Are the S3 engines any more economical?
Questions Questions...


Coil springs were first used on 110 in 1983 and the 90 in 1984.
The series 3 petrol engines are basicly the same as that used in the series 2 in 1958 (2l excluded) and the diesel is the same as that used in the series 2a.
Please e mail or post any more question, i'm a bit of a when it comes to landy's

>> Edited by seaton on Wednesday 24th September 17:52

Bodo

12,421 posts

273 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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seaton said:
i'm a bit of a when it comes to landy's

seaton

400 posts

261 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Bodo said:



You knows its bad when you can tell the difference between an 86" and an 88" at a quick glance

mrs fish

30,018 posts

265 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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What you really want is a StageI V8

Bodo

12,421 posts

273 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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seaton said:

Bodo said:




You knows its bad when you can tell the difference between an 86" and an 88" at a quick glance
Uhh, I struggle with that. Is it more space between the A-post and the front wheel arch?

Seaton

400 posts

261 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Correct.
The retaining bolt for the strut from the foot well is in th centre of the radius of the wing on an 86" and two inches back on an 88"
also there are 4 holes in an 86" radiator panel which is ali, an 88" has one hole and is steel

Ok i'll leave you normal people alone and find my own little dark corner

Bodo

12,421 posts

273 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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mrs fish said:
What you really want is a StageI V8




unfortunately no longer mine (but still on the 'want-list', especially this one; full history, 25k kms from 1979 to 1994 with one owner; 50k kms from two owners since 1994 )

Bodo

12,421 posts

273 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Seaton said:
Correct.
The retaining bolt for the strut from the foot well is in th centre of the radius of the wing on an 86" and two inches back on an 88"
also there are 4 holes in an 86" radiator panel which is ali, an 88" has one hole and is steel
Didn't knew the other details. Nerd.
I remember, when it all started with Landrovers at the age of 17. My then g/f only laughed, the one after showed respect (she even sat in the shadow of a prototype at Dunsfold Landrovers for an entire afternoon, while I was sorting bits for my current project .
The last g/f sold her Alfa Romeo and fulfilled her dream: a 109. She bought a dutch SIII Diesel FFR. Yes, she's collecting bits now too
said:
Ok i'll leave you normal people alone and find my own little dark corner
You're normal, all the others are bonkers. Don't change yourself, change your environment!

Seaton

400 posts

261 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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Been into landy's since i was about 8-9, our old nextdoor neighbour had an 80" along with old fordson and fergasun tractors. I'l never forget as a ten year old watching an lorry delivering a ten ton Fowler steem roller in kit form (must have had an effect on me)
Most of the women i know seem to prefer the leather and wood of the Rangie over the vynal and painted bits of the series 3

>> Edited by Seaton on Wednesday 24th September 21:10

mrs fish

30,018 posts

265 months

Wednesday 24th September 2003
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James speaking:

Bodo spot on except thefinal spec will read: -

(long breath)

new marsland chassis (1 of the last six they have parts for)
new rocky mountain parabolics
es gas shockers
recon gearbox (slightly higher ratio than origional better on the road)
new seats
new sand tilt and hood
refurbed V8 by moi!
fully resprayed bodywork in 2 pack masai red
new tyres, plus stove enameled wheels
new galv on all the trim
plus lots lots more
basically a total chasis up rebuild

Oh dear the quick tart up is still getting carried away, but hey this stage one will be MINT. It will also have 40,000 genuine miles MOTs back to 1990 and only three keepers from new.


Waiting to get it muddy