Sport Super Charged

Sport Super Charged

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misery

Original Poster:

100 posts

264 months

Sunday 25th September 2005
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Hi would be interested in some of your views.

I am and have been a great Range Rover fan (my last 5 cars!! also have the best in the world a 1960 swb 11A) but due to every one going back in for some reason or another decided on a change and have gone for the new Mercedes ML63 AMG. I was thinking it's either the ML63 or go down to a Sport Super Charged, but will the Super charged be the same as all the others.

Opinions please

YamR1,V64motion

5,725 posts

231 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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personally i would take an RR over an ML,X5 or Cayenne anyday, its the original and best, it looks the nicest and its the only one that can actully go off road with any degree of sucess, if you wanted something a little different, www.overfinch.com , the overinh sport looks amazing.

misery

Original Poster:

100 posts

264 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Thanks Yam I agree with you entirely, but just don't want to risk another car breaking down on me. I have been down to Overfinch and tested there L32 converstion which is a beast but is also a price of another car to have done.
The ML has 510 BHP 0 to 60 in about 5 seconds standard and something is telling me the build quality would be better, my farther has only ever driven mercs and i can't ever remeber him having a breakdown. BUT IT WILL NEVER BE A RANGE ROVER!!! and that's the problem i have.

YamR1,V64motion

5,725 posts

231 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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was your last RR a P38? if so i can see why you might be a bit skeptical to buy another because of reliability issues but personally i can say the P60 is an entirly different car, its been great in terms of reliability and im sure the Sport is the same, the Overfinch Sport looks amazing, im sure one of those could be taken higher than the 500 bhp that they say on thier page , have you bought the ML already? if not i would urge you to try the new RR first.

Liszt

4,330 posts

277 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Also remember the M Class is a pile of cack. German reliability is a load of old tosh and has been for 10 years.

misery

Original Poster:

100 posts

264 months

Tuesday 4th October 2005
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Well as I write this reply my RR has had to be recovered again today something else that has gone wrong.

Yam I thought I had mentioned this is a new shape 03 model luckily still under warranty but what will i do next year!!!!

Lizt I know what your saying, but I've stoped and spoken to at least 8 ML owners and they have all said that they love the vechile.

I have only put the deposite down on the ML i still have time to change my mind but 510BHP is rather tempting. A friend of mine has the new SC sport and loves it but has also said to me he is just waiting for that to break down.

YamR1,V64motion

5,725 posts

231 months

Wednesday 5th October 2005
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misery said:
Well as I write this reply my RR has had to be recovered again today something else that has gone wrong.

Yam I thought I had mentioned this is a new shape 03 model luckily still under warranty but what will i do next year!!!!

Lizt I know what your saying, but I've stoped and spoken to at least 8 ML owners and they have all said that they love the vechile.

I have only put the deposite down on the ML i still have time to change my mind but 510BHP is rather tempting. A friend of mine has the new SC sport and loves it but has also said to me he is just waiting for that to break down.




really you have to ask yourself what you really want to buy?, you know deep down what you would prefer, we dont, just honestly the best thing you can do decide what you actully want to drive, for me personally it would be the RR, but i havent had any bad experiances like it sounds you have.

mpkayeuk

416 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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I think the ML made worst car in JD Power last or this year (can't remember)! Merc build quality has dropped significantly since the late 90's.

misery

Original Poster:

100 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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Thanks Mpkayeuk but if i remember this year Land Rover has come out on top being the worst. All the reviews on the new ML are saying how good it is compared to the last model.

hunttheshunt

1,093 posts

247 months

Monday 7th November 2005
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I bought a Disco 3 for the wife, great car really love it, but it has had a few problems. I'm not sure where you get the information about the latest RR's being so reliable. I understood them to be very patchy especially the early ones. A common theme seems to be the air suspension. Check out www.disco3.co.uk. I imagine there is a similar site for the RR, but they seem to share common issues and quite a few of them.

Our Disco 3 has had one air suspension pump and I know other people who are on their third. It wouldn't put me off as I said, it's a truly great car if somewhat flawed. I'd just make sure I had warranty or could extend it.

As to the X5 et al, I'm on my fourth, currently have an 05 4.8is and the Range Rover can't touch it for on road driving. Agreed off road it's not that great, but if that was a real issue I'd buy a cheap 90. I have had the odd niggle with the X5's but nothing major and the service is 2nd to none.

Depends what you want the thing for. If you rarely go off road and don't need seven seats, then the X5, Cayenne etc are head and shoulders better than the Rangie, Disco. If you want to go off road buy a Disco or 90 and keep the change.

The old ML is truly awful IMHO but people still buy it for the mistaken badge snobbery. Whilst the RR could never be classed as awful (built by BMW after all) there are other vehicles in each discipline that simply do it better, so why else would you buy one!



persuader

114 posts

229 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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hunttheshunt said:

Whilst the RR could never be classed as awful (built by BMW after all) there are other vehicles in each discipline that simply do it better, so why else would you buy one!



Range Rover's have been owned and built by Ford for quite a while now and the new Discovery and Range Rover Sport have never had any BMW input. My wife has had ML, X5, Cayenne and now the Range Rover Sport which is by far the nicest drive and no problems now in 6000 miles.

obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

247 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Ive got the RR Sport diesel and must say its far better than I expected anf very well screwed together. I also own a BMW Z4 and the quality of the RR is better then that of the Z4.

cy88

2,808 posts

237 months

Thursday 17th November 2005
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Had a Supercharged Sport today & loved it (although wouldn't necessarily buy a Rimini red one). After hearing it was the "baby" of the family, I was quite surprised to find that it was the same size as my P38. Took a load of pics, some of which I put onto the Photo forum earlier:-









Graham.J

5,420 posts

266 months

Saturday 19th November 2005
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hunttheshunt said:
I bought a Disco 3 for the wife, great car really love it, but it has had a few problems. I'm not sure where you get the information about the latest RR's being so reliable. I understood them to be very patchy especially the early ones. A common theme seems to be the air suspension. Check out www.disco3.co.uk. I imagine there is a similar site for the RR, but they seem to share common issues and quite a few of them.
D3.co.uk is run by a good friend of mine, he also runs www.rrsport.co.uk

bensandars

57 posts

260 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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I ordered the RRS supercharged…arrives in Jan!!!

My opinion on the others:

BMW X5
Great road car, but not that special and very popular now and the shape getting a bit dated. If had to be a BMW then it would be the M5

Porsche Cayenne
Sorry but personally can not stand the shape, also still aspire to have a 997 and purchasing a Cayenne would basically kibosh that aspiration as the other half would never let me have 2 Porsches.

ML
A friend had an older shape AMG version, this has put me of for life.

RR Supercharged
Great sense of occasion, excellent quality, powerful engine and I really wanted to buy this car; but, it just doesn’t handle, it rolls too much plus it doesn’t feel sporty enough as with the X5 the shape is in its later years.

The RRS is a great car to drive, in fact it reminded me of my hot hatch back days even though it does way over 2 tonnes, the only slight let down is the cabin quality compared to RR .

CY88, fantastic photo’s is that Jersey by any chance?

cy88

2,808 posts

237 months

Saturday 26th November 2005
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bensandars said:

CY88, fantastic photo’s is that Jersey by any chance?


Indeed it is, and thanks

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

267 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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[quote=YamR1,V64motion]



was your last RR a P38? if so i can see why you might be a bit skeptical to buy another because of reliability issues but personally i can say the P60 is an entirly different car, its been great in terms of reliability and im sure the Sport is the same, the Overfinch Sport looks amazing, im sure one of those could be taken higher than the 500 bhp that they say on thier page , have you bought the ML already? if not i would urge you to try the new RR first.[/quote] Personally i think if you get a good P38 then nothing else can beat it.Ive had mine for seven years and apart from servicing havent had to spend to much on it,unlike a work collegue who bought a new X5 that developed 10 faults within 14 months of owning it,needless to say its now been binned.

misery

Original Poster:

100 posts

264 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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Hi All

Just thought I would let you know that I have finally made up my mind. I told you but I just can't get away from Land Rover bug, I have placed my order for the new Supercharged Sport should be here in About 5 weeks!!!!!.

Graham.J

5,420 posts

266 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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Good man, come on now, don't leave us in the dark....spec???