Defender 110 D300 vs P400e - Real World Economy
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Trying to choose between a D300 & P400e hybrid. Keen to try hybrid, but concerned the extra cost doesn't offer real world economy savings.
Interested in any owners experiences of real world economy, especially the hybrid. Driving is a mix of shortish commutes (12miles) & monthly long runs (150miles+)
by my calcs, for the maths to work out, the hybrid needs to offer me average ~10mpg better economy than the diesel - which seems a stretch!
Interested in any owners experiences of real world economy, especially the hybrid. Driving is a mix of shortish commutes (12miles) & monthly long runs (150miles+)
by my calcs, for the maths to work out, the hybrid needs to offer me average ~10mpg better economy than the diesel - which seems a stretch!
paulmac said:
Trying to choose between a D300 & P400e hybrid. Keen to try hybrid, but concerned the extra cost doesn't offer real world economy savings.
Interested in any owners experiences of real world economy, especially the hybrid. Driving is a mix of shortish commutes (12miles) & monthly long runs (150miles+)
by my calcs, for the maths to work out, the hybrid needs to offer me average ~10mpg better economy than the diesel - which seems a stretch!
I have a p400e (though it's not a defender). I do about 25 miles a day, with long trips every few months. If you are in that camp, you will hardly ever have to use the ICE. I've done 11k miles and have only spent +/- £200 on petrol in 15 months. So it just depends how many long trips you do. Once you start using the petrol engine you'll obviously get fewer mpg due to the extra weight.Interested in any owners experiences of real world economy, especially the hybrid. Driving is a mix of shortish commutes (12miles) & monthly long runs (150miles+)
by my calcs, for the maths to work out, the hybrid needs to offer me average ~10mpg better economy than the diesel - which seems a stretch!
It’s a difficult one to calculate as the car display won’t help and you need to add back in the leccy costs.
Mine shows circa 49mpg at the moment, but that includes using the pure electric distance travelled to inflate it.
Here’s my charging profile. You need to figure out how much your leccy costs and how many journeys are either pure ev - I’m seeing 27 miles in summer down to 24 in winter. And how many are hybrid before the batteries are depleted. I can do a 50 mile journey with some motorway and city before it’s down to 0%.
I’d say that if you are regularity doing longer distances go with the 300. The hybrid batteries do also make a slightly raised and uneven rear load space.
Mine shows circa 49mpg at the moment, but that includes using the pure electric distance travelled to inflate it.
Here’s my charging profile. You need to figure out how much your leccy costs and how many journeys are either pure ev - I’m seeing 27 miles in summer down to 24 in winter. And how many are hybrid before the batteries are depleted. I can do a 50 mile journey with some motorway and city before it’s down to 0%.
I’d say that if you are regularity doing longer distances go with the 300. The hybrid batteries do also make a slightly raised and uneven rear load space.
I'm possibly in the same boat as @paulmac, but for a later L494 RRS. Had a couple of SDV6's along the way, but most usage is hauling kids around and in an urban context. (Very) Occasional longer distance drives to see family - nearest is 270 miles each way, farthest is 450 miles each way. Only going to be doing that a couple of times each year. Last couple of years haven't really taxed the mileage very much.
We have off street parking, with an outside 13A socket (no charge pod as yet).
We were pondering, what with Edinburgh & Glasgow starting up their ULEZ chats, whether we'd benefit from a PHEV (i.e. P400e) or a MHEV (i.e. D300 or P400HST) over just replacing our SDV6. Speaking to a main dealer suggested we may have the right profile for it, but next step is to try one out. That is, unless we're barking.
Anyone any thoughts?
We have off street parking, with an outside 13A socket (no charge pod as yet).
We were pondering, what with Edinburgh & Glasgow starting up their ULEZ chats, whether we'd benefit from a PHEV (i.e. P400e) or a MHEV (i.e. D300 or P400HST) over just replacing our SDV6. Speaking to a main dealer suggested we may have the right profile for it, but next step is to try one out. That is, unless we're barking.
Anyone any thoughts?
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