Land Rover with 3 different tire treads - safe?

Land Rover with 3 different tire treads - safe?

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Rebecca-TheFoldYard

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4 posts

19 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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HI

I have bought a Land Rover Discovery 2018 from a car dealership in Bristol and within two weeks found it had three different tire types/treads (only 7 days to return if unhappy).

Kwik Fit have said this could damage the 4 Wheel Drive mechanism and isn't safe - yet the company will not authorise two replacement tires. I am also advised the different treads will be contributing to the poor MPG (31.8).

Does anyone believe I have any recourse with the company that sold the car, if so best suggested tips to use?

Any help gratefully received.

Thanks

littlebasher

3,836 posts

178 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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Trouble with Kwik fit is that they like selling tyres !

For the 4wd system, I'd be more concerned with the difference in tread depth across the same axle. If there are out by more than a couple of millimetres, then yes it will damage the differential.

Personally, i would expect the same make / model of tyres on the same axle with identical tread depth

stevewak

506 posts

137 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Beating yourself up over the dealer’s response won’t help you. It’s what they do.

I would see if two of the tyres match and have the same depth then get two new ones to match. Not if they don't, or are cheapos. Otherwise get a full set of new good tyres and that will set you up with your new acquisition for the next few years. Does it have a spare so you only need to buy three?

I bought a 2014 s/h Freelander with mismatched M+S tyres last year (but matched on each axle). One pair was pretty worn so needed changing soonish anyway. I replaced all with OE Pirellis a week later and the change transformed it. Use Black Circles for guide on price.

Huntsman

8,206 posts

257 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Its a 5yr old car, its half way to a banger, you wouldnt expect a full set of matching boots.

I would run it until they need changing.

sunbeam alpine

7,079 posts

195 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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You only spotted it within 2 weeks???

The first thing I check on a car is that all the tyres match - as it's a good indication of how the previous owner treated/maintained the car.

That having been said, I wouldn't listen to Kwikfit's advice on anything - they're just out to sell.

Depending on which engine it is, there's a fair chance the tyres will outlast the engine...

cayman-black

12,925 posts

223 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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For me at the very minimium it would have to have two tyres the same on one axle,as you have described I would not have bought this car unless the dealer put all four tyres the same on it.

Bobupndown

2,147 posts

50 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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Huntsman said:
Its a 5yr old car, its half way to a banger, you wouldnt expect a full set of matching boots.

I would run it until they need changing.
I'd suggest that a 2018 Disco is a very desirable high end motor still and hardly 'half way to a banger'

I like to run 4 matched tyres on a 4x4 and swap mine front to back every 5k miles to even their wear, the replace at once.
New set of decent tyres should be good fof 40k on a disco.

Huntsman

8,206 posts

257 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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Bobupndown said:
Huntsman said:
Its a 5yr old car, its half way to a banger, you wouldnt expect a full set of matching boots.

I would run it until they need changing.
I'd suggest that a 2018 Disco is a very desirable high end motor still and hardly 'half way to a banger'

I like to run 4 matched tyres on a 4x4 and swap mine front to back every 5k miles to even their wear, the replace at once.
New set of decent tyres should be good fof 40k on a disco.
Likewise, we live rurally, very little ice and snow, but lots of mud and water, our main family car is 4x4 and runs matching all season tyres.

My point about a 5yr old Disco is right though. A 10yr old one with average miles is £10k, a new one is what? £60k? More? So at 5yrs old its half knackered.


A.J.M

8,014 posts

193 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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As long as the tyre sizes are all the same.
Eg 255/55/19 or whatever.

It will be fine.
Personally, I would be putting a good set of all season tyres on it when funds allow.

Otherwise, find a good specialist in your area and let them look after the car for servicing and repairs.
If it’s got 21k oil change intervals then ignore that and do it every 10k.

Rebecca-TheFoldYard

Original Poster:

4 posts

19 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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Thanks everyone - appreciate your advice

camel_landy

5,085 posts

190 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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sunbeam alpine said:
The first thing I check on a car is that all the tyres match - as it's a good indication of how the previous owner treated/maintained the car.
A.J.M said:
As long as the tyre sizes are all the same. Eg 255/55/19 or whatever. It will be fine.
Personally, I would be putting a good set of all season tyres on it when funds allow.
^^^ This

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stevewak

506 posts

137 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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sunbeam alpine said:
The first thing I check on a car is that all the tyres match - as it's a good indication of how the previous owner treated/maintained the car.
Wise words but oddball tyre could have been put on by cheapskate selling dealer noticing MOT failure nail or split and had a spare knocking about. No excuse for selling it like that, but there we go with dealers.

Outside the Pistonheadssphere, people do funny things and previous owner could be a money-no-object, main-dealer-only servicing type who happens to have had a puncture on hols - skiing, say - and nearest tyre place only has alternative brand and they go for that, maybe two at a time.

Just saying.

Red9zero

7,911 posts

64 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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If a 5 year old Disco is halfway to being scrapped, what is my 36 year old 90 ? laugh

Also, Kwikfit must be slipping. I'm sure they could have recommended brake pads and discs and probably shocks too laugh

camel_landy

5,085 posts

190 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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stevewak said:
sunbeam alpine said:
The first thing I check on a car is that all the tyres match - as it's a good indication of how the previous owner treated/maintained the car.
Wise words but oddball tyre could have been put on by cheapskate selling dealer noticing MOT failure nail or split and had a spare knocking about. No excuse for selling it like that, but there we go with dealers.

Outside the Pistonheadssphere, people do funny things and previous owner could be a money-no-object, main-dealer-only servicing type who happens to have had a puncture on hols - skiing, say - and nearest tyre place only has alternative brand and they go for that, maybe two at a time.

Just saying.
Maybe so but we're not saying it's the _only_ thing to look at when buying a car... It's a good "Starter for 10", in the same way that if it has 4x random 'ditch-finders' fitted, it'll be telling me to approach with caution.

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bakerstreet

4,826 posts

172 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2023
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Huntsman said:
Likewise, we live rurally, very little ice and snow, but lots of mud and water, our main family car is 4x4 and runs matching all season tyres.

My point about a 5yr old Disco is right though. A 10yr old one with average miles is £10k, a new one is what? £60k? More? So at 5yrs old its half knackered.
No, not really. A 11-12 plate D4 is pretty much considered the sweet spot of D4s as they had the 8Sp box and no troublesome DPF (I think). A good HSE will set you back £12-15k and beige interior cars sell very quickly. Prices will rise too. 15/16 plate ULEZ compliant are even more.

5 years is not half knackered. Daft statement.

Triumph Man

8,886 posts

175 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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bakerstreet said:
Huntsman said:
Likewise, we live rurally, very little ice and snow, but lots of mud and water, our main family car is 4x4 and runs matching all season tyres.

My point about a 5yr old Disco is right though. A 10yr old one with average miles is £10k, a new one is what? £60k? More? So at 5yrs old its half knackered.
No, not really. A 11-12 plate D4 is pretty much considered the sweet spot of D4s as they had the 8Sp box and no troublesome DPF (I think). A good HSE will set you back £12-15k and beige interior cars sell very quickly. Prices will rise too. 15/16 plate ULEZ compliant are even more.

5 years is not half knackered. Daft statement.
Unfortunately DPFs were standard fit by 2011 frown Although driven correctly they shouldn't be an issue.

Deranged Rover

3,778 posts

81 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Personally, I'm still struggling with the concept of 31.8mpg being "poor"!

bakerstreet

4,826 posts

172 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Deranged Rover said:
Personally, I'm still struggling with the concept of 31.8mpg being "poor"!
Your doing well if you can get anything over 30mpg over a tank if its one of the old school LRs (IE D4/L322 of any generation)

latest Unibody constructed LRs are better, but much more money obviously and still the same god awful 3.0 V6 Diesel under the hood.