Evoque, Discovery & similar - what proportion are 2WD?
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As the Evoque and Discovery are both available in 2WD, my assumption is that most buying or leasing will just want to get a LR/RR product on the drive at the cheapest price point, and so most you see will be the 2WD versions.
However, I have no idea if my theory is correct - is there any way of finding out what %age of those on the road are 2WD v 4WD? I suspect not, and I have failed to find anything thus far.
However, I have no idea if my theory is correct - is there any way of finding out what %age of those on the road are 2WD v 4WD? I suspect not, and I have failed to find anything thus far.
beagrizzly said:
As the Evoque and Discovery are both available in 2WD, my assumption is that most buying or leasing will just want to get a LR/RR product on the drive at the cheapest price point, and so most you see will be the 2WD versions.
However, I have no idea if my theory is correct - is there any way of finding out what %age of those on the road are 2WD v 4WD? I suspect not, and I have failed to find anything thus far.
News to me. I'd thank you for the info but that sucks balls.However, I have no idea if my theory is correct - is there any way of finding out what %age of those on the road are 2WD v 4WD? I suspect not, and I have failed to find anything thus far.
beagrizzly said:
As the Evoque and Discovery are both available in 2WD, my assumption is that most buying or leasing will just want to get a LR/RR product on the drive at the cheapest price point, and so most you see will be the 2WD versions.
However, I have no idea if my theory is correct - is there any way of finding out what %age of those on the road are 2WD v 4WD? I suspect not, and I have failed to find anything thus far.
If you know the difference in model designation between the 2WD and 4WD then www.howmanyleft.co.uk might give you a rough idea.However, I have no idea if my theory is correct - is there any way of finding out what %age of those on the road are 2WD v 4WD? I suspect not, and I have failed to find anything thus far.
Honk said:
You could possibly get a rough idea by searching for Evoque or whatever on Autotrader and selecting your choice of drivetrain on the drop down menu. 
There are 3615 Evoques for sale on AT. 3108 are listed as 4WD and 473 as 2WD.I imagine people are prepared to pay for #4WDpremium even if they never use it with Evoques.
vikingaero said:
Honk said:
You could possibly get a rough idea by searching for Evoque or whatever on Autotrader and selecting your choice of drivetrain on the drop down menu.
There are 3615 Evoques for sale on AT. 3108 are listed as 4WD and 473 as 2WD.I imagine people are prepared to pay for #4WDpremium even if they never use it with Evoques.
Regarding paying a premium - my assumption was partly driven by the fact that so few seem to be prepared to pay an extra £20 for a nice colour, and just put up with the 'free' colour(s). Shiny thing on drive, as cheaply as possible.
Anyway - as I said, it is but a theory, and I am prepared for my theory to be disproved :-)
For the Evoque, only the smallest Diesel (163 HP) is available as a front wheel drive. As you can probably see on Autotrader, these are not particularly common so the overal percentage of 2WD car is low.
The Discovery (L462) is only available as 4WD so the take rate is 100%
The Discovery Sport (built on the same platform as the Evoque) is again only available as FWD on the smaller 163HP Diesel which again is not very popular on Autotrader.
The spec for all models are on the LR website.
The Discovery (L462) is only available as 4WD so the take rate is 100%
The Discovery Sport (built on the same platform as the Evoque) is again only available as FWD on the smaller 163HP Diesel which again is not very popular on Autotrader.
The spec for all models are on the LR website.
Easternlight said:
I wonder what percentage of Evoque's ever get further off road than a grass car park?
I'd say close to zero. I don't think anyone that needs to ever go offroad would even consider it as an option. Although, to be fair, I've just been reading up on it and it does appear to have good clearance, entry and departure angles and a 50cm wading depth, so I dare say it'd be alright if needed, perhaps tyre dependent.
Don't confuse Discovery with Discovery sport.
The Discovery is a full size Landrover based on the range rover platform, in the UK they all came with low range and are all 4WD and are properly off road capable.
The discovery Sport is the same transverse platform as Evoque and E-pace (rehashed ford) and these can come in front wheel drive only.
I think actually relatively little of them were specced in 2WD, and from what I recall it's only the very low power 163bhp version of the 2.0l diesel Ingenium that that was 2wd, as a general rule the 180bhp diesels should all be 4wd.
If you're viewing a car the sure fire way to check is to look under the back for a rear diff and driveshafts, if it has them its 4wd.
The Discovery is a full size Landrover based on the range rover platform, in the UK they all came with low range and are all 4WD and are properly off road capable.
The discovery Sport is the same transverse platform as Evoque and E-pace (rehashed ford) and these can come in front wheel drive only.
I think actually relatively little of them were specced in 2WD, and from what I recall it's only the very low power 163bhp version of the 2.0l diesel Ingenium that that was 2wd, as a general rule the 180bhp diesels should all be 4wd.
If you're viewing a car the sure fire way to check is to look under the back for a rear diff and driveshafts, if it has them its 4wd.
Edited by andrewc2102 on Wednesday 8th March 12:15
andrewc2102 said:
Don't confuse Discovery with Discovery sport.
The Discovery is a full size Landrover based on the range rover platform, in the UK they all came with low range and are all 4WD and are properly off road capable.
The discovery Sport is the same transverse platform as Evoque and E-pace (rehashed ford) and these can come in front wheel drive only.
I think actually relatively little of them were specced in 2WD, and from what I recall it's only the very low power 150bhp version of the 2.0l diesel Ingenium that that was 2wd, as a general rule the 180bhp diesels should all be 4wd.
If you're viewing a car the sure fire way to check is to look under the back for a rear diff and driveshafts, if it has them its 4wd.
You are right, I did mean the Disco Sport - apologies.The Discovery is a full size Landrover based on the range rover platform, in the UK they all came with low range and are all 4WD and are properly off road capable.
The discovery Sport is the same transverse platform as Evoque and E-pace (rehashed ford) and these can come in front wheel drive only.
I think actually relatively little of them were specced in 2WD, and from what I recall it's only the very low power 150bhp version of the 2.0l diesel Ingenium that that was 2wd, as a general rule the 180bhp diesels should all be 4wd.
If you're viewing a car the sure fire way to check is to look under the back for a rear diff and driveshafts, if it has them its 4wd.
beagrizzly said:
andrewc2102 said:
Don't confuse Discovery with Discovery sport.
The Discovery is a full size Landrover based on the range rover platform, in the UK they all came with low range and are all 4WD and are properly off road capable.
The discovery Sport is the same transverse platform as Evoque and E-pace (rehashed ford) and these can come in front wheel drive only.
I think actually relatively little of them were specced in 2WD, and from what I recall it's only the very low power 150bhp version of the 2.0l diesel Ingenium that that was 2wd, as a general rule the 180bhp diesels should all be 4wd.
If you're viewing a car the sure fire way to check is to look under the back for a rear diff and driveshafts, if it has them its 4wd.
You are right, I did mean the Disco Sport - apologies.The Discovery is a full size Landrover based on the range rover platform, in the UK they all came with low range and are all 4WD and are properly off road capable.
The discovery Sport is the same transverse platform as Evoque and E-pace (rehashed ford) and these can come in front wheel drive only.
I think actually relatively little of them were specced in 2WD, and from what I recall it's only the very low power 150bhp version of the 2.0l diesel Ingenium that that was 2wd, as a general rule the 180bhp diesels should all be 4wd.
If you're viewing a car the sure fire way to check is to look under the back for a rear diff and driveshafts, if it has them its 4wd.
If you look at the Disco Sport on AT, there are c1,900 for sale. Of those only 52 are FWD which suggests people who buy premium want full fat premium. Contrast this with the budget end of 4WD - Dacia Duster 865 for sale at the moment - 109 4WD and 744 FWD.
Starting to look very much like my theory is being exposed as bunkum 
Quite right, too.
I genuinely thought there'd be a lot more 2WD, bearing in mind the Evoque, Disco Sport and others seem to be more about 'having a LR/RR' rather than using it for anything that requires 4WD.
I stand corrected. (Although seems crazy to have that much extra hardware out there, never really being used.)
Quite right, too.
I genuinely thought there'd be a lot more 2WD, bearing in mind the Evoque, Disco Sport and others seem to be more about 'having a LR/RR' rather than using it for anything that requires 4WD.
I stand corrected. (Although seems crazy to have that much extra hardware out there, never really being used.)
Time to don the flame suit.
We had an Evoque D150S fwd manual on lease from 2019 to last September.
Don’t care about the stereotypes, we loved it. Became too small in the back and the boot unfortunately.
Could have gone for a 4wd but that was £50 a month more and didn’t seem worth it. In the 3 years we had it I don’t think I got stuck once, it ran on all weather tyres which may have helped plus we didn’t have massive amounts of snow and I don’t drive across muddy fields often.
We live on the edge of the Yorkshire Dales on the North/West Yorkshire border, so have quite bad weather. We are susceptible to flooding and I found the wading depth useful a couple of times, once had a PCSO give me a ticking off for driving through a flood - ‘I’ve made it through in my Nissan XTrail, you shouldn’t have done it in that!’ Couldn’t be arsed to argue.
Also the ground clearance was useful. I work as a surveyor and some of the properties I go to in this part of the world can be very rural up unmade tracks, or development sites. It handled these fine and was glad I had it.
I guess there were also few fwd models as they were only available in base engine with manual transmission, and only on base and S models. I should add the manual gearbox was rubbish.
We had an Evoque D150S fwd manual on lease from 2019 to last September.
Don’t care about the stereotypes, we loved it. Became too small in the back and the boot unfortunately.
Could have gone for a 4wd but that was £50 a month more and didn’t seem worth it. In the 3 years we had it I don’t think I got stuck once, it ran on all weather tyres which may have helped plus we didn’t have massive amounts of snow and I don’t drive across muddy fields often.
We live on the edge of the Yorkshire Dales on the North/West Yorkshire border, so have quite bad weather. We are susceptible to flooding and I found the wading depth useful a couple of times, once had a PCSO give me a ticking off for driving through a flood - ‘I’ve made it through in my Nissan XTrail, you shouldn’t have done it in that!’ Couldn’t be arsed to argue.
Also the ground clearance was useful. I work as a surveyor and some of the properties I go to in this part of the world can be very rural up unmade tracks, or development sites. It handled these fine and was glad I had it.
I guess there were also few fwd models as they were only available in base engine with manual transmission, and only on base and S models. I should add the manual gearbox was rubbish.
I did the Land Rover experience at Eastnor Castle quite a few years ago, when the first of the 2WD land rovers were coming out.
They told me they gave a 2WD to one of the instructors and didn't tell them - however they were still able to get quite far around the course even with only 2WD.
Currently I'm running Crossclimates on a 2WD hatch, tyres make a huge difference.
I've driven a 4WD RAV4 and a 4WD Volvo XC40 - both of which were much worse in poor weather due to having silly big wheels and summer tyres.
They told me they gave a 2WD to one of the instructors and didn't tell them - however they were still able to get quite far around the course even with only 2WD.
Currently I'm running Crossclimates on a 2WD hatch, tyres make a huge difference.
I've driven a 4WD RAV4 and a 4WD Volvo XC40 - both of which were much worse in poor weather due to having silly big wheels and summer tyres.
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