£6k L322 or Sport?
Discussion
I have decided now is a good time to get myself a Rangie.
Only do 6k p.a
Out of principal I don't want to pay £600 road tax but I pay monthly so only really £30 more a month so might be swayed.
Choice seem to be:
2006 l322 vogue with the 3l bmw diesel
2006 Sport 2.7 tdc
Or stretch for a 3.6V8 tdc
Any advice?
Only do 6k p.a
Out of principal I don't want to pay £600 road tax but I pay monthly so only really £30 more a month so might be swayed.
Choice seem to be:
2006 l322 vogue with the 3l bmw diesel
2006 Sport 2.7 tdc
Or stretch for a 3.6V8 tdc
Any advice?
Thanks for the comments, the next nearest L322 V8 is 30k more miles and extra £1500. There is a local 06 BMW 3.0 L322 with only 89k on the clock I will look at to get a feel for them. I am in no rush so can play waiting game if the V8 is worth hanging out for.
The PH buyers guide mentions the L322 has gearbox issues. The Sport seems to have less serious issues? I am reasonably competent however wouldn't want to tackle a gearbox replacement!
The PH buyers guide mentions the L322 has gearbox issues. The Sport seems to have less serious issues? I am reasonably competent however wouldn't want to tackle a gearbox replacement!
Same zf6 speed in both I think
Gearbox Needs Oil & filter change at 80k ( along with diff oils etc )as per schedule.
Something it may not get unless serviced by a specialist or dealer
Ours in on 104k and smooth
But changing oil c20k miles now make sure (c£100)
You can also change the gearbox to a metal sump Vs plastic meaning you just need the filter and fluid
Drive it the changes should be barely noticeable even on full chat
If it's abit notchy then a flush and drain by a zf specialist will make it smooth again
Gearbox Needs Oil & filter change at 80k ( along with diff oils etc )as per schedule.
Something it may not get unless serviced by a specialist or dealer
Ours in on 104k and smooth
But changing oil c20k miles now make sure (c£100)
You can also change the gearbox to a metal sump Vs plastic meaning you just need the filter and fluid
Drive it the changes should be barely noticeable even on full chat
If it's abit notchy then a flush and drain by a zf specialist will make it smooth again
roca1976 said:
I ran the calcs through online tool and the petrol version was £500-600 more a year.
Are the petrol cars any cheaper/lower miles? I know they're not like the diesels of old, but the added complication of turbos etc plus LEZ issues makes me think £10 a week extra is a bargain.If you’re shopping for a 2006 L322, best to check all the electrics very carefully. That was the time that a lot of the L322 electrics started to transition from BMW based electrics from it’s original development, to Ford based electrics. On other forums, you’ll find people highlight potential for electrical issues on the 2006 crossover models.
In terms of L320 or L322, drive both and you’ll have a clear favourite. It’s horses for courses.
In terms of L320 or L322, drive both and you’ll have a clear favourite. It’s horses for courses.
As others have said
1) buy best condition car regardless of L322 or disco based sport
2) our tdv8 gets parked up for the summer .. and mostly does local stuff, never had an issue with egrs/dpfs but does like a run ever so often
It's probably worth £8k .. but quite frankly it's nicer to drive than our brand new X5 45e
If I needed a big 4x4 for towing and family stuff I'd buy another 4.4/3.6 L322 TDV8 as big chunk of change cheaper than a L405, nicer engine/ cheaper and better to drive than a disco 4 and not sure a super charged one is better to drive (+crazy asking prices at the moment) and better than an X5/ML to drive on or off road ( will go anywhere a lifted defender will with some Grabber AT3s)
Ours may be for sale this winter ... But only because may inherit the folks slightly newer 3.6tdv8 which they bought new..
1) buy best condition car regardless of L322 or disco based sport
2) our tdv8 gets parked up for the summer .. and mostly does local stuff, never had an issue with egrs/dpfs but does like a run ever so often
It's probably worth £8k .. but quite frankly it's nicer to drive than our brand new X5 45e
If I needed a big 4x4 for towing and family stuff I'd buy another 4.4/3.6 L322 TDV8 as big chunk of change cheaper than a L405, nicer engine/ cheaper and better to drive than a disco 4 and not sure a super charged one is better to drive (+crazy asking prices at the moment) and better than an X5/ML to drive on or off road ( will go anywhere a lifted defender will with some Grabber AT3s)
Ours may be for sale this winter ... But only because may inherit the folks slightly newer 3.6tdv8 which they bought new..
Edited by custardkid on Saturday 2nd October 21:05
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2021092276...
This is the one I am looking at tomorrow, he works for JLR and had a master tech inspect it. Not sure why selling so quickly. Will report back tomorrow!
This is the one I am looking at tomorrow, he works for JLR and had a master tech inspect it. Not sure why selling so quickly. Will report back tomorrow!
The straight six was ok and sounded nice however on kickdown or full acceleration it would hesitate (sounded like when you hit a rev limiter on manual car) before selecting next gear. It was the 5spd ZF and I know they can have issues. Tried Google search but couldn't find anything that sounded the same.
Tom4398cc said:
If you’re shopping for a 2006 L322, best to check all the electrics very carefully. That was the time that a lot of the L322 electrics started to transition from BMW based electrics from it’s original development, to Ford based electrics. On other forums, you’ll find people highlight potential for electrical issues on the 2006 crossover models.
In terms of L320 or L322, drive both and you’ll have a clear favourite. It’s horses for courses.
Also interested,In terms of L320 or L322, drive both and you’ll have a clear favourite. It’s horses for courses.
So the L320 is the full size range rover, and the L322 is the slightly smaller range Rover Sport.
I wouldn't have thought there would be much fuel consumption difference in real world commuting on open'ish roads ?
Other way round - L320 is the Range Rover Sport. L322 is the full fat Range Rover.
Fuel consumption? I’m the wrong person to ask…..my L322 is the M62 petrol V8. I’ve averaged 16.1mpg over the last 30,000 miles.
I think the driving experience is quite different between the L322 FFRR and L320 sport. The L322 FFRR has a (hefty) monocoque body. The L320 has an (even more hefty) Discovery 3 derived chassis frame with monocoque equivalent body structure on top.
If you are considering both, you need to drive both. There is no right or wrong, but most folk seem. To prefer one or the other. It’s all personal preference.
Both have the ability to throw out big bills unless you are a whizz with the spanner’s yourself. Ie. Gearboxes are to be regarded as a wearing part on L322’s. Typical rebuild cost £2,500. Whilst L320’s can require the body to be lifted off the chassis for some turbo and exhaust jobs. You have to be realistic about running costs, especially if it is a daily driver that you rely on to work all the time.
Having said that, they are fantastic vehicles to drive on long trips etc and massively useful. Passengers love them compared to other cars. So that is how they deliver their value for money.
Fuel consumption? I’m the wrong person to ask…..my L322 is the M62 petrol V8. I’ve averaged 16.1mpg over the last 30,000 miles.
I think the driving experience is quite different between the L322 FFRR and L320 sport. The L322 FFRR has a (hefty) monocoque body. The L320 has an (even more hefty) Discovery 3 derived chassis frame with monocoque equivalent body structure on top.
If you are considering both, you need to drive both. There is no right or wrong, but most folk seem. To prefer one or the other. It’s all personal preference.
Both have the ability to throw out big bills unless you are a whizz with the spanner’s yourself. Ie. Gearboxes are to be regarded as a wearing part on L322’s. Typical rebuild cost £2,500. Whilst L320’s can require the body to be lifted off the chassis for some turbo and exhaust jobs. You have to be realistic about running costs, especially if it is a daily driver that you rely on to work all the time.
Having said that, they are fantastic vehicles to drive on long trips etc and massively useful. Passengers love them compared to other cars. So that is how they deliver their value for money.
Get the V8 petrol for such low mileage, you should be able to get into a 5.0L for that. Enjoy it before they are banned 
I have had both and enjoyed owning both although have kept the current Sport 4.2V8 longest, 9 years now.
The "full fat" Range Rover has more interior space all round, for driver, passengers and luggage. The Sport is at best like a large estate car inside. From a driving perspective the FFRR wafts along, handles just fine, but more of a cruiser. The Sport hides its 2.5 ton weight well and corners more like a large car...up to a point.
From reading forums you could conclude the big V8 petrols seem more reliable from engine perspective, with few engine issues at all compared to the turbo diesels. As with many older complex luxury cars, many issues are electronic niggles. If you have your own code reader and the workshop manual or search forums you can solve many issues yourself.
I have had both and enjoyed owning both although have kept the current Sport 4.2V8 longest, 9 years now.
The "full fat" Range Rover has more interior space all round, for driver, passengers and luggage. The Sport is at best like a large estate car inside. From a driving perspective the FFRR wafts along, handles just fine, but more of a cruiser. The Sport hides its 2.5 ton weight well and corners more like a large car...up to a point.
From reading forums you could conclude the big V8 petrols seem more reliable from engine perspective, with few engine issues at all compared to the turbo diesels. As with many older complex luxury cars, many issues are electronic niggles. If you have your own code reader and the workshop manual or search forums you can solve many issues yourself.
The 3.0ltr diesel is from the old 330Ds and is pretty underpowered in the L322. If memory serves, its only 174bhp and the TDV6 in heavier D3 was 189bhp and that was also pretty gutless.
The gearboxes are indeed the weak points on many many Land Rovers. the 2.7TDV7 RRS/Disco 3/4 have a selection of issues relating to service life and the Toque Converters, but many people bodge them these days rather than getting them rebuilt for £2.5k
The L322 6Sp box is also know to have issues, but I must confess I don't know what they are but rebuilds are quite common.
I am same as the OP on not wanting to pay £500 for road tax, so always looking at L322s mainly because they look fantastic and I still rate the L322 interior as one of the biggest leaps LR made in interior design. Still looks great even now.
Check for rust and leaks
L322s are rusting in the hidden places now (Arches and sills) plus the doors and the tailgates.
The gearboxes are indeed the weak points on many many Land Rovers. the 2.7TDV7 RRS/Disco 3/4 have a selection of issues relating to service life and the Toque Converters, but many people bodge them these days rather than getting them rebuilt for £2.5k
The L322 6Sp box is also know to have issues, but I must confess I don't know what they are but rebuilds are quite common.
I am same as the OP on not wanting to pay £500 for road tax, so always looking at L322s mainly because they look fantastic and I still rate the L322 interior as one of the biggest leaps LR made in interior design. Still looks great even now.
Check for rust and leaks
L322s are rusting in the hidden places now (Arches and sills) plus the doors and the tailgates.
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