LR DISCOVERY 4 - 6 SPEED V 8 SPEED

LR DISCOVERY 4 - 6 SPEED V 8 SPEED

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sim2kuk

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6 posts

38 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Afternoon all, looking for a bit of help.

Looking to purchase a high-ish mileage Disco 4 with a £15k budget.

For this you can get approx 115k mileage 2012 (8 speed).

However, you can also get a similar mileage 2010 (6 speed) for between 4 and 5k less - doesn't seem to be much difference apart from the newer gearbox and lower emissions. I am aware that money will need to spent on it fairly regularly and will be getting a warranty (however much that's actually worth).

I was wondering if anyone had any experience/opinions on the reliability difference between these two?

Cheers in advance.

Edited by sim2kuk on Wednesday 29th September 13:45

ComStrike

347 posts

100 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Dont

ashenfie

835 posts

53 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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I am pretty sure the forums are littered with issue around the 8 speed boxes , not sure about the 6 speed ones thu.

Sidekickwilson

23 posts

39 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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I’d be very wary. Brilliant cars but at that age/mileage you’d always be worrying about a large bill. The 3L 8 speed is a lot nicer than a 2.7L 6 speed.

sim2kuk

Original Poster:

6 posts

38 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Sidekickwilson said:
I’d be very wary. Brilliant cars but at that age/mileage you’d always be worrying about a large bill. The 3L 8 speed is a lot nicer than a 2.7L 6 speed.
I think the issue I have is I need a large 7 seater that's capable off-road and towing, and I don't think I can really get that for under £35k and the Disco 5. In which case why not buy one of these for £15k and deal with the bills (obvs using a warranty to deal with any huge bills like new engine or gearbox). I only plan to do 5k miles per year max in it.

sim2kuk

Original Poster:

6 posts

38 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Afternoon all, looking for a bit of help.

Looking to purchase a high-ish mileage Disco 4 with a £15k budget.

For this you can get approx 115k mileage 2012 (8 speed).

However, you can also get a similar mileage 2010 (6 speed) for between 4 and 5k less - doesn't seem to be much difference apart from the newer gearbox and lower emissions. I am aware that money will need to spent on it fairly regularly and will be getting a warranty (however much that's actually worth).

I was wondering if anyone had any experience/opinions on the reliability difference between these two?

I think the issue I have is I need a large 7 seater that's capable off-road and towing, and I don't think I can really get that for under £35k and the Disco 5. In which case why not buy one of these for £15k and deal with the bills (obvs using a warranty to deal with any huge bills like new engine or gearbox). I only plan to do 5k miles per year max in it.

Cheers in advance.

Sidekickwilson

23 posts

39 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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sim2kuk said:
Sidekickwilson said:
I’d be very wary. Brilliant cars but at that age/mileage you’d always be worrying about a large bill. The 3L 8 speed is a lot nicer than a 2.7L 6 speed.
I think the issue I have is I need a large 7 seater that's capable off-road and towing, and I don't think I can really get that for under £35k and the Disco 5. In which case why not buy one of these for £15k and deal with the bills (obvs using a warranty to deal with any huge bills like new engine or gearbox). I only plan to do 5k miles per year max in it.
I’d still be very wary and go into it with your eyes open. A new engine is £15k and warranties may or may not pay as some say the issues are a known design fault. They are brilliant cars but JLR are dreadful so avoid them. If you get lucky then happy days but you’re entering the high risk territory. For good advice and possibly good cars for sale take a look on Disco3 or Disco4.com. I miss mine but not the slightly nagging feeling a large bill was around the corner and mine was mint and owned since new.

JustGREENI

498 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Buy a 100 Series Land Cruiser… no worries and your money will be safe.

ZX10R NIN

28,347 posts

132 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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sim2kuk said:
I think the issue I have is I need a large 7 seater that's capable off-road and towing, and I don't think I can really get that for under £35k and the Disco 5. In which case why not buy one of these for £15k and deal with the bills (obvs using a warranty to deal with any huge bills like new engine or gearbox). I only plan to do 5k miles per year max in it.
Have you looked at the Mercedes GL350cdi it'll do everything you want & is a reliable robust SUV:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107255...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313682147006?hash=item4...

Not sure what you're towing but there's always the Hyundai Santa Fe/Kia Tucson

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109267...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109207...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109237...

mattcooke99

40 posts

74 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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Just to give a positive tale, whilst it’s true to be wary, I bought a 8 speed XS 2013 model at 120k - with no service history, it’s upto 145k now and she’s never let me down, I paid for a full service inc cambelts on day 1. A couple of minor niggles - but she’s been solid.

Plenty of advice on https://www.disco4.com/forum/ if you’re serious.

LaserTam

2,142 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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I have a 2012 8 speed. It's great, smooth, so much so, you hardly know its changing up. I've had no issues with the gearbox in the 6 years I have owned it, still only on 65k miles.

I've never been in a 6 speed so I have no comparison.

Go onto the DISCO4.com forum, loads of threads on there that may help you.

sim2kuk

Original Poster:

6 posts

38 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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Thanks, I will do.

alfabeat

1,187 posts

119 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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And another positive tale...

59 plate Disco 4 (so 6 speed, 3.0 diesel). Pretty much zero mechanical issues in the 5 years and 70k miles I have owned it, apart from normal consumables (bushes, wheel bearings etc). 1 x MAF sensor is the only non consumable. On 138k now. Tows all the time. Fantastic cars.

My mechanic does say I am the luckiest LR owner alive though.

ChocolateFrog

28,483 posts

180 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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JustGREENI said:
Buy a 100 Series Land Cruiser… no worries and your money will be safe.
If you can find one that isn't rusty.

I note anything that's under 100k and the later facelift model is now over £20k, insane for something that's seen 15 UK winters.

The 200 Series is even more bonkers, £40k+, £50k+ for a genuinely low mileage one.

sim2kuk

Original Poster:

6 posts

38 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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alfabeat said:
And another positive tale...

59 plate Disco 4 (so 6 speed, 3.0 diesel). Pretty much zero mechanical issues in the 5 years and 70k miles I have owned it, apart from normal consumables (bushes, wheel bearings etc). 1 x MAF sensor is the only non consumable. On 138k now. Tows all the time. Fantastic cars.

My mechanic does say I am the luckiest LR owner alive though.
I wonder if I just go chuck 10k at a high mileage 09 or 10 plate, safe in the knowledge that at some point the crankshaft will go, but at low mileage per year it may not be for a few years. It seems silly to spend another 5k on the newer gearbox when you have the Cs issue sitting in the background.

camel_landy

5,079 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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The 8spd gives you paddle shift, slightly better economy when cruising but otherwise the 6spd is actually a stronger gearbox.

IIRC - The arrival of the 8spd was also when the SDV6 appeared too.

The differences are marginal and I'd be happy with either.

M

sim2kuk

Original Poster:

6 posts

38 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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camel_landy said:
The 8spd gives you paddle shift, slightly better economy when cruising but otherwise the 6spd is actually a stronger gearbox.

IIRC - The arrival of the 8spd was also when the SDV6 appeared too.

The differences are marginal and I'd be happy with either.

M
Thanks, that's my thoughts too, especially when there is a good 4 to 5k difference for similar mileage cars that are a year or two apart in age.

CornishRob

256 posts

141 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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camel_landy said:
The 8spd gives you paddle shift, slightly better economy when cruising but otherwise the 6spd is actually a stronger gearbox.

IIRC - The arrival of the 8spd was also when the SDV6 appeared too.

The differences are marginal and I'd be happy with either.

M
SVD6 is only badging. It doesn’t mean anything!

You can get 245hp 6 speed SDV6 or 255hp 8 speed sdv6. They are usually euro 5 though, whereas the 3.0l 245hp 6 speed TDV6 is euro 4

LandieMark

1,822 posts

155 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
JustGREENI said:
Buy a 100 Series Land Cruiser… no worries and your money will be safe.
If you can find one that isn't rusty.

I note anything that's under 100k and the later facelift model is now over £20k, insane for something that's seen 15 UK winters.

The 200 Series is even more bonkers, £40k+, £50k+ for a genuinely low mileage one.
Farmer next door has one and Toyota have admitted they can't fix it as they don't know how to. Constant 4x4 faults and various electrical issues and nobody has any idea. I think he has spent in the region of £5k on it and it is still broken.

camel_landy

5,079 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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CornishRob said:
SVD6 is only badging. It doesn’t mean anything!
Not quite but in the real world, the difference is marginal between the TDV6 & SDV6 of the same era.

Now I stop to think... IIRC the earlier TDV6 engines wouldn't have had a DPF. That alone would make me go for the 6spd over the 8spd.

M