2016 Range Rover 5.0 SC
Discussion
I've been considering one of these for awhile (full fat not the Sport), almost went for the hybrid P400e but decided that a pre facelift 5.0 will better for dog, bikes and general use with 25k in the bank. If it goes well then I can upgrade to a facelift in a couple of years when the depreciation has sunk them a bit more.
Apart from the electrical issues and air suspension compressor, is there anything else specifically that I should look out for?
Is there anything on the 5.0 engine with regards to maintenance or recalls that I should look for in the service history?
If I buy from an independent with full LRSH, can I get a warranty extension from LR assuming it passes their pre warranty inspection?
Are massage seats a standard option on all the Autobiography models?
I think I know the answer to this one but would I really miss out if I went for the 4.4 diesel V8 instead of the petrol V8?
Apart from the electrical issues and air suspension compressor, is there anything else specifically that I should look out for?
Is there anything on the 5.0 engine with regards to maintenance or recalls that I should look for in the service history?
If I buy from an independent with full LRSH, can I get a warranty extension from LR assuming it passes their pre warranty inspection?
Are massage seats a standard option on all the Autobiography models?
I think I know the answer to this one but would I really miss out if I went for the 4.4 diesel V8 instead of the petrol V8?
I have been happy with mine I had a TDV8 (L332) before I got a 2015 5.0 SC
I think you should go for test drive and you will find it amazing
I have had no issues other the normal wear & tear and I have had it 18 months,I use a very good independant Land Rover specialist near me.
I am not sure the warranty situation but you can only ask a main dealer
Range Rover ownership you must go in with your eyes open they are going to cost a bit to run. But the whole experience of driving is sheer luxury and I believe massage seats are standard
I think you should go for test drive and you will find it amazing
I have had no issues other the normal wear & tear and I have had it 18 months,I use a very good independant Land Rover specialist near me.
I am not sure the warranty situation but you can only ask a main dealer
Range Rover ownership you must go in with your eyes open they are going to cost a bit to run. But the whole experience of driving is sheer luxury and I believe massage seats are standard
5.0 SC is likely to be an Autobiography - which will have the exec seating. Which means that it has quite a bit less boot space, can't have an OEM dog cage/divider, and the seats don't lie as flat. There may be some specced with the bench but it's unlikely.
This may matter to you given bikes/dogs/general usability comments.
The facelift really is a much better vehicle, but the above is also true of the p400e, most are AB, and even if they are not some boot space is robbed by the battery pack, and you still can't have a divider etc.
I'd suggest getting into the best facelift you can, and if useuability matters aim at V or VSE spec, but the tdv6 has issues of its own, so maybe the 4.4. You won't miss out over the 5.0, all are fast enough in reality.
Eta, all ABs have massage in post facelift, and pre. Most VSEs have it in post, less so in pre. The seats are much better in post.
This may matter to you given bikes/dogs/general usability comments.
The facelift really is a much better vehicle, but the above is also true of the p400e, most are AB, and even if they are not some boot space is robbed by the battery pack, and you still can't have a divider etc.
I'd suggest getting into the best facelift you can, and if useuability matters aim at V or VSE spec, but the tdv6 has issues of its own, so maybe the 4.4. You won't miss out over the 5.0, all are fast enough in reality.
Eta, all ABs have massage in post facelift, and pre. Most VSEs have it in post, less so in pre. The seats are much better in post.
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 27th March 22:25
Had a 2008 TDV8 for the last 4 years
Great car, more special place to be than our brand new X5
Apart from the intake hoses, which get weak with age and a couple ball joints, they are probably the most reliable Land Rover.
Check rear arches at bottom of rear door for rust
Would be tempted by a TDV8 as look to be half the price of a petrol. Will do 25-30 mpg Vs 17-20.. which soon adds up
8spd gear box on the face lift car helps
Great car, more special place to be than our brand new X5
Apart from the intake hoses, which get weak with age and a couple ball joints, they are probably the most reliable Land Rover.
Check rear arches at bottom of rear door for rust
Would be tempted by a TDV8 as look to be half the price of a petrol. Will do 25-30 mpg Vs 17-20.. which soon adds up
8spd gear box on the face lift car helps
custardkid said:
Had a 2008 TDV8 for the last 4 years
Great car, more special place to be than our brand new X5
Apart from the intake hoses, which get weak with age and a couple ball joints, they are probably the most reliable Land Rover.
Check rear arches at bottom of rear door for rust
Would be tempted by a TDV8 as look to be half the price of a petrol. Will do 25-30 mpg Vs 17-20.. which soon adds up
8spd gear box on the face lift car helps
Only it doesn't really "add up". Great car, more special place to be than our brand new X5
Apart from the intake hoses, which get weak with age and a couple ball joints, they are probably the most reliable Land Rover.
Check rear arches at bottom of rear door for rust
Would be tempted by a TDV8 as look to be half the price of a petrol. Will do 25-30 mpg Vs 17-20.. which soon adds up
8spd gear box on the face lift car helps
At 20,000 miles it's £500 difference in fuel
ExcitableBoy said:
5.0 SC is likely to be an Autobiography - which will have the exec seating. Which means that it has quite a bit less boot space, can't have an OEM dog cage/divider, and the seats don't lie as flat. There may be some specced with the bench but it's unlikely.
All the reasons why mine is specked with the bench (a no cost option)! Nobody has ever complained. There may be a few more out there but it wasn’t an option the dealer drew my attention to, even when I said the boot was smaller than expected., so probably not that common. Tony1963 said:
jontysafe said:
Only it doesn't really "add up".
At 20,000 miles it's £500 difference in fuel
Well, it’s more than that, but still, life is too short to not buy a car you like just because of fuel consumption. At 20,000 miles it's £500 difference in fuel
I’ve done quite a lot of miles in both of the V8s (TDV8 pre-facelift, s/c post). Hard to feel short changed with either but the s/c feels more refined.
FWIW, the massage seats are the only thing that has broken on mine (a couple of pads on passenger seat got stuck in the “out” position). Needed a good bit of time at the dealership to fix but was under warranty so not sure how much it would have cost. Wouldn’t have been an optional fix as it apparently made the seat really uncomfortable and, when occupied, caused an irritating whining noise for the driver.
Edited by LooneyTunes on Sunday 28th March 08:44
I’m pretty set on the 5.0 and have never owned a supercharged car previously so that’ll be another tick of engines to own.
For example if the massage seats broke as above, would an independent be able to fix it?
I did own an almost new RRS Autobiography 3 years ago and no major issues but the niggles were never fully resolved by the dealer so I’d rather pay and go to a trusted indy with whom I can develop a good relationship. I will be keeping it for a minimum of 3 years.
For example if the massage seats broke as above, would an independent be able to fix it?
I did own an almost new RRS Autobiography 3 years ago and no major issues but the niggles were never fully resolved by the dealer so I’d rather pay and go to a trusted indy with whom I can develop a good relationship. I will be keeping it for a minimum of 3 years.
I had a 2015 L405 TDV8 Autobiography.
(no experience of the 5.0).
I don’t know whether it had been updated by 2016, but the operation of screen interface was tediously slow and clunky. It had all the hallmarks of being released before it had been fully developed.
Otherwise it was beautifully put together both inside and out. Fit and finish was perfect. The ride was limo-like.
At about 30k careful miles it needed a new transfer box. And there were a few other mechanical niggles.
But overall I think they’d make a good s/h buy provided the price is right.
(no experience of the 5.0).
I don’t know whether it had been updated by 2016, but the operation of screen interface was tediously slow and clunky. It had all the hallmarks of being released before it had been fully developed.
Otherwise it was beautifully put together both inside and out. Fit and finish was perfect. The ride was limo-like.
At about 30k careful miles it needed a new transfer box. And there were a few other mechanical niggles.
But overall I think they’d make a good s/h buy provided the price is right.
I would do 10k max per year in this car and lots of short journeys so petrol would certainly be the better option.
I've sat in both the facelift and pre-facelift now, I genuinely prefer the older car with more tactile buttons on the inside but the newer car looks better on the exterior. Might have to get a pre-facelift and get an exterior update done. Green would be the colour of choice but seems rare.
I've sat in both the facelift and pre-facelift now, I genuinely prefer the older car with more tactile buttons on the inside but the newer car looks better on the exterior. Might have to get a pre-facelift and get an exterior update done. Green would be the colour of choice but seems rare.
Edited by Babw on Tuesday 30th March 20:54
If it was me I'd go for a 2017MY that is still a pre-facelift version with the physical steering wheel buttons but with the much wider and better infotainment screen that allows Apple carplay etc
The easy way to tell is there aren't any buttons on the edges of the screen on the MY17.
I had a 2016 4.4 Autobiography and the older screen really let it down and was the main reason I got rid.
The easy way to tell is there aren't any buttons on the edges of the screen on the MY17.
I had a 2016 4.4 Autobiography and the older screen really let it down and was the main reason I got rid.
gibbo37 said:
If it was me I'd go for a 2017MY that is still a pre-facelift version with the physical steering wheel buttons but with the much wider and better infotainment screen that allows Apple carplay etc
The easy way to tell is there aren't any buttons on the edges of the screen on the MY17.
I had a 2016 4.4 Autobiography and the older screen really let it down and was the main reason I got rid.
Good advice, this is exactly what I went for. I find the haptic digital buttons a real faff on most cars I've used them and undoubtedly as this tech improves they will age at a faster rate. I find the physical buttons which are visible even when the car is off far more intuitive to use. The easy way to tell is there aren't any buttons on the edges of the screen on the MY17.
I had a 2016 4.4 Autobiography and the older screen really let it down and was the main reason I got rid.
My RRS was a 2015 and the laggy infotainment was the main reason I sold it. From starting the car in the morning I would be up my drive and joining the main road before I could get the heated seats + radio on.
Babw said:
I would do 10k max per year in this car and lots of short journeys so petrol would certainly be the better option.
I've sat in both the facelift and pre-facelift now, I genuinely prefer the older car with more tactile buttons on the inside but the newer car looks better on the exterior. Might have to get a pre-facelift and get an exterior update done. Green would be the colour of choice but seems rare.
Fwiw i've owned pre facelift then a post facelift now back in another pre facelift - i prefer the interiors of the pre faceflift cars with actual buttons and i think the seats are better - feels like better leather and comfier padding... .I've sat in both the facelift and pre-facelift now, I genuinely prefer the older car with more tactile buttons on the inside but the newer car looks better on the exterior. Might have to get a pre-facelift and get an exterior update done. Green would be the colour of choice but seems rare.
Edited by Babw on Tuesday 30th March 20:54
Try lizard logistics. A helpful PHer
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
http://lizardlogistics.com
Or this guy collected a car from me, and seemed helpful
Https://Cardeliveries4u.co.uk
Not connection with either apart from the above
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
http://lizardlogistics.com
Or this guy collected a car from me, and seemed helpful
Https://Cardeliveries4u.co.uk
Not connection with either apart from the above
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