Early disco 4 2010-12 model year....stupid idea??

Early disco 4 2010-12 model year....stupid idea??

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dave_s13

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13,863 posts

276 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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I'm potentially after something to replace our current family bus (nissan Elgrand Jap import) and need something that will carry 5 in comfort, with some separation for the kids, a dog l, tow a caravan with ease and be able to chuck a couple of large mountain bikes in on occasion. Navigating the odd muddy feild would be handy as well.

I've been drawn to this...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2020102353...

2010 disco 4 HSE....looks lovely.

Are they really a case of financial suicide?

Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 14th December 15:00

Westlondondriver

339 posts

79 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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My wife has a 2010 one which we have run since nearly new and loves it. A few small issues over the years but has on the whole been very reliable. This year we had to replace corroded contacts on the file pump and some suspension arms which cost about £1k in total but that has been our worst year. Last year just new break pads, year before some windscreen trim came off. I can’t get her to change- we drove the new Defender which she really liked but didn’t see the need to change until the current one gives up. A couple of years ago I had her put in a new RRS but felt it offered less utility so didn’t want it. Fuel consumption is poor so beware if you Dona high mileage but otherwise if you get a good one they are great. Just been to collect the Christmas tree with 2 kids and a dog this morning in ours.

dave_s13

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13,863 posts

276 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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Thanks.

I get the impression they can be very reliable, or a total nightmare whilst always being a really competent vehicle.

I'm in a place with my current car where it's got a problem that I've spent a lot trying to fix unsuccessfully and need to get the car to a specialist over an hour away to get a 2nd opinion. Nobodies fault, just the risk when you run a jap import. At least with a disco there are good independents, and I have a decent one local to me as well.

In no rush anyway, I may even wait a year or so and see if I can pick up one of the later ones. I feel like a need to try a landrover at some point though.

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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If you can, go for a 2012 model when the 8 speed was introduced with the more powerful SD twin turbo engine. Mine has also been very reliable, only a split intake manifold and new MAF in 5 years besides normal servicing. The lower arms always need replacing by about 100k as the things are so heavy and constant braking/accelerating eventually wears the rubber bushes out. They were pretty much sorted towards the end of life but as always buy with full service history. Neglected ones are expensive to put right.

CornishRob

256 posts

141 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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If it’s a 3.0l, they are all twin turbo and all about the same power. I think 2010-2012 are 245 & 2012+ are 255.

dave_s13

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13,863 posts

276 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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CornishRob said:
If it’s a 3.0l, they are all twin turbo and all about the same power. I think 2010-2012 are 245 & 2012+ are 255.
I think it's the gearbox that's the main change.

To be honest if be happy with either and buy more on condition. Encouraging there hasn't been a strong bias toward keeping clear anyway.

Thanks for the replies.

anonymous-user

61 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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CornishRob said:
If it’s a 3.0l, they are all twin turbo and all about the same power. I think 2010-2012 are 245 & 2012+ are 255.
3.0 TDV6 only had a single turbo I believe and slightly less power. S(equential)DV6 had two turbos.

TarquinMX5

2,052 posts

87 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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Westlondondriver said:
My wife has a 2010 one which we have run since nearly new and loves it.

I can’t get her to change- we drove the new Defender which she really liked but didn’t see the need to change until the current one gives up. A couple of years ago I had her put in a new RRS
You had her put in a RRS? Is she still there?

CornishRob

256 posts

141 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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wormus said:
3.0 TDV6 only had a single turbo I believe and slightly less power. S(equential)DV6 had two turbos.
Nope, you are incorrect. Maybe you're thinking of the early D4s which were 2.7 TDV6?

The SDV6 is just Land Rover badging. It as usual makes no sense!

In the D4, in the UK, the 3.0l TDV6 is a twin turbo with 245bhp. It usually doesn't have a DPF and is EU4. The SDV6 up to 2012 is exactly the same engine, and gearbox, but with a DPF, and usually EU5. From MY12, the SDV6 is the same engine with a tweak in power up to 255bhp and the 8 speed gearbox.

The D5 marked as a TDV6 has the V6, with a single turbo, and around 250hp. The SDV6 in the D5 went back to the twin turbo.


AndrewO

664 posts

190 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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Personally I'd go for a euro6, less likely to get caught up in any changes to the anti-diesel lot

A.J.M

8,011 posts

193 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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Get a 2012 onwards for the 8 speed gearbox, it’s far superior to the 6 speed. It’s also less prone to the failure of the 6 speed.

They need the oil flushed at 75k for long life though.

By 100k or so, front lower arms, front wheel bearings and rear upper arms will likely need changed or already have been done.

Engines need the secondary turbo oil drain mod if not done.
Cranks can be made of glass. Not a cheap repair. (£6k+)
Don’t expect over 30mpg, and find a good specialist!

They are brilliant cars though.
I had a D3 for 8 years and it was a brilliant car for its all round abilities.
I miss it’s boot space and practicality.

I don’t miss it’s low 20s mpg, it’s 2 grand a year maintenance fund and the ahole specialist who ultimately killed it through incompetence.

Big_Dan

495 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th December 2020
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Lots of changes for MY2011 and as has been pointed out, the 8 speed box for 2012

https://media.landrover.com/news/2010/09/new-featu...

GS is poverty, XS misses reversing camera and Xenons, so go for the HSE


oop north

1,612 posts

135 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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Had a 2010 HSE from mid 2015 to late 2018 and took from 48k miles to I think just over 90k. Almost nothing went wrong - but I think a few things were on their way out by the end. Averaged around 27-28mpg. Only fitted one new set of tyres. Superb at towing. Fab long distance car

Steviesam

1,289 posts

141 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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Great cars. Kept mine 4 years (I have never kept a car more than 12 months!)

Just look after it, over service if anything. Utterly sublime for my 6 times a year drive to Alps.

Oh, and dont get hung up on the 6 v 8 speed. I actually prefer the 6 speed. Less gear changes makes for a smoother drive. I got frustrated with a friends 8 speed because when you just wanted to up speed a bit on the motorway it changed down a gear or 2, whereas my 6 speed just surged on the torque.

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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Steviesam said:
Great cars. Kept mine 4 years (I have never kept a car more than 12 months!)

Just look after it, over service if anything. Utterly sublime for my 6 times a year drive to Alps.

Oh, and dont get hung up on the 6 v 8 speed. I actually prefer the 6 speed. Less gear changes makes for a smoother drive. I got frustrated with a friends 8 speed because when you just wanted to up speed a bit on the motorway it changed down a gear or 2, whereas my 6 speed just surged on the torque.
To be fair, I've just had the oil changed in the box of my 8sp at 77k and it's so much better. Shifts are undetectable.

dave_s13

Original Poster:

13,863 posts

276 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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I'm liking the tone of this thread, and I keep seeing disco 4s about and lusting after them smile

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,052 posts

109 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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My mate has one and its a bit of a pig - thirsty, needs quite a lot of maintenance and there isn't an excess of leg room in the front.

dave_s13

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13,863 posts

276 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
My mate has one and its a bit of a pig - thirsty, needs quite a lot of maintenance and there isn't an excess of leg room in the front.
Apart from that though?

Actually...I need leg room...I'm 6'4"....used to be full of muscle, before covid fked up my gym routine smile

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,052 posts

109 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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The maintenance does seem expensive - £1500 to change the hand brake module recently for example and it's still dubious.

I found the dash is too close to my knees/upper shin in the front passenger seat, I suppose it could be his passenger seat doesn't go back fully for some reason?

He gets mid 20's mpg I think.

I haven't owned one so I'm sure other people will be able to give you better info, I found it a bit of a disappointment to be honest.

I can't really see why a Japanese 4x4 wouldn't be better, or a pickup. But other people in this thread seem to love theirs :-)

AndrewO

664 posts

190 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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I'm 6'4" and leg room was fine in mine, I had manual adjustment on the seat and steering. I have problems in a lot of cars, if the seat/steerng is electrically operated it quite often doesn't have enough adjustment.

I keep thinking I should have kept mine, swapping the wifes car instead for the RR. Last of the D4s and nothing else out there like it.