New disco - Intelligent 4WD vs Permanent 4WD on petrol model

[Mintbird]

been reading the launch info articles about the facelift,
and they state that the Mild hybrid diesels have an "intelligent 4WD" system that disables a driveshaft when not needed
presumably the front driveshaft I guess - whereas the Petrol versions are still permanent 4WD ( I prefer this)

Can anyone elaborate on this?

im torn between the D250/D300 and the P360 - petrol seems good value but Im worried about the fuel consumption.
something tells me it will be rather more thirsty and also more gutless low down ( prefer diesel torque on big heavy SUVs)

[kmpowell]

I’m currently literally say in a LR dealer about to order a new Disco. Decided on spec (HSE Dynamic) but I’m completely torn between D300 v P360.

P360 torque is only circa 100nm down on D300, and ethically it’ll be better than the D300. MPG on paper is only 5mpg less also. but...

D300 is £800 cheaper, £700 stronger GFV and having had the 306hp SDV6 in my old RRS it’ll be a better motorway cruiser (where it’ll most of its life hauling our family up and down).

Re the difference, the D300 has the dual low range box available to option (in the pack), but the P360 doesn’t. That’s about to as far as I can tell.

I really don’t know which way to go. I know which engine I’d prefer (D300 for effortless smoothness and torque) but I don’t want to get 2years down the line and the anti-diesel bridge have all but ruined a the cars value. The only way I’d be protected would be at the end of the PCP term.

Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 6th December 15:04

[Mintbird]

D300 is 650 NM vs 500NM in the petrol. big difference.

alot more bottom end grunt too, and likely 30-40% less consumption in real life.

Diesel rules in these cars

[kmpowell]

Mintbird said:

D300 is 650 NM vs 500NM in the petrol. big difference.

alot more bottom end grunt too, and likely 30-40% less consumption in real life.

Diesel rules in these cars

Coincidently I posted a new thread about this at the same time as you replied:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Pre MHEV I would agree with you, but all the reviews on similar engines (and the P400 found in the HST RRS) seem to suggest the MHEV tech fills the previous gap...

Edited by kmpowell on Monday 7th December 10:12

[Mintbird]

its just a very mild hybrid, big starter not really a torque fill engine.... doubt it makes that much of a diffference,
see if you can find a torque curve for the P360. that will say alot.

650 vs 500 is still a lot

[Mintbird]

the P400 in the rangey has a more powerful hybrid component doesnt it?

[kmpowell]

I think truth be told, I am in the D300 camp, especially as I had the 306hp engine in the car this will replace so I know it's excellent for what t will be used for. I saw 30+mpg easily, and that only dropped to 25-28mpg if I was really 'making pace', so I think the new one will mean it never drops below 30mpg.

I guess I'm just worried about the future residual values given the huge shifts in opinions.

Besides this how's your spec looking? I'm a bit peeved that with so much standard kit I have to pay an extra £110 for washer jets I can use on the motorway in winter, but happy all my 'must-haves' (adaptive cruise, surround camera, CarPlay, heated/cooled seats, electric 2nd/3rd row, dual pan roof etc) are catered for in the standard HSE spec!

[Mintbird]

diesel sales are surprisingly strong in this sector, people want and appreciate the nature of diesels in big vehicles.

and papers numbers be damned, the petrol will be alot thirstier - which may not be a big issue walletwise but Range will suffer -
which is annoying.

I had a G500 and now a G350 - difference real life is 50%. one has 400 miles of range the other 600! difference is massive, G350d much better car.

my spec will be poverty, im in norway so I will only add a few bits and bobs - trailer hitch, maybe some leather thats it
I think they are pretty well specced standard even in the lowest specs!

[kmpowell]

Mintbird said:

the P400 in the rangey has a more powerful hybrid component doesnt it?

Apparently it's exactly the same, just detuned for the Disco.

Mintbird said:

I think they are pretty well specced standard even in the lowest specs!

I agree. Spec a Q7 to the same level and it's £7k more! The only 'excessive' option on mine will be the paint (Carpathian).

Edited by kmpowell on Monday 7th December 12:48

[Mintbird]

Meridian, leather, cold climate pack, ebony rooflining , roof rails , detachable tow bar
and the 14 ways with heat

job jobbed

Lantau bronze.

car is pretty well specced standard, and Piwi pro is gonna be a massive upgrade.

Didnt bother with any of the offroad packs , it will NEVER be of use.

[ettore]

I've just ordered one as well - HSE R-Dynamic in Portofino Blue and I went for the D300. Much better engine in one of these and ours is also used for long distance trips full of people and luggage, plus the odd bit of towing.

Standard spec' is pretty comprehensive so have only added a few bits (roofrails, deployable tow-bar, HUD etc). I had a D5 before my current FFRR and they really are a fabulous family wagon.

[kmpowell]

Seems like these are going to be popular. I had a SDV6 RRS a couple of years ago, but the crank/dilution issues along with the woeful infotainment made me swear I wouldn't go back to JLR. These Disco facelift updates/upgrades are a huge step-forward IMO.

Paid options on top of HSE R-Dynamic, I've ticked:

Carpathian Grey
Black Roof rails
Advanced Off-Road Capability Pack (purely for resale value)
Heated washer jets
Heated steering wheel
Wireless device charging with phone signal booster
Privacy glass

As a motorway muncher for our large family, I'm not sure there's much else that comes close to VFM v luxury v practicality.

ettore said:

I've just ordered one as well

p.s. I got £8k off through DTD.

Edited by kmpowell on Monday 7th December 14:43