Why the (reputation for) shonky electronics?
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I guess the question is if it's justified.
Now I appreciate that making a roughty-toughty go anywhere vehicle isn't easy and that electrickery (so to speak) is a fraught business. Put the 2 together and there's an even bigger potential for tears. However Toyota seem to manage it as do ze Chermans - why do JLR not seem to be able to manage it?
It doesn't really affect me, but there are time when I think it might be nice to own a 2012 (for example) JLR product - only to be scared s
tless by the bork-potential...
Now I appreciate that making a roughty-toughty go anywhere vehicle isn't easy and that electrickery (so to speak) is a fraught business. Put the 2 together and there's an even bigger potential for tears. However Toyota seem to manage it as do ze Chermans - why do JLR not seem to be able to manage it?
It doesn't really affect me, but there are time when I think it might be nice to own a 2012 (for example) JLR product - only to be scared s
tless by the bork-potential... I realise I'm probably in a very small minority but, in three Range Rovers, I can't say I've had any major electrical problems at all - only a few little silly annoyances that you just make you think "Well, it's a Land Rover - what do you expect?" and then just get on with it.
A perfect example in all three of them (a 1994 Classic, a 2004 L322 and my current 2005 L322) is that putting the heated rear window on causes interference on FM radio - I felt sure manufacturers had sorted this issue out in the 1980s!
Across these three models, the biggest issues I've had were with the oily bits, not the electricals. You know, the oily bits that are made in Germany...
A perfect example in all three of them (a 1994 Classic, a 2004 L322 and my current 2005 L322) is that putting the heated rear window on causes interference on FM radio - I felt sure manufacturers had sorted this issue out in the 1980s!
Across these three models, the biggest issues I've had were with the oily bits, not the electricals. You know, the oily bits that are made in Germany...
Had my Discovery Sport 2.2 HSE Lux for nearly 4 years.
No problems with the electrics other than the clock seems to disappear off the screen once a month for a day or so.
I have been getting low battery warnings during little use because of lockdown so a day on the charger clears this for several weeks. Same happens to my next door neighbour's much newer Sport.
R.
No problems with the electrics other than the clock seems to disappear off the screen once a month for a day or so.
I have been getting low battery warnings during little use because of lockdown so a day on the charger clears this for several weeks. Same happens to my next door neighbour's much newer Sport.
R.
I owned an early RRS SC 2006 car and in the relatively short time I owned it it had 4 ECUs swapped under LR approved used warrenty. Hard to say if a number of these were just the dealership chasing thier tails trying to resolve the electronics reluctance to shut down fully after locking the car or if all were needing replacement (suspect the former) . A later approved used Defender 110 CSW was only covered for electric defects by the sale of goods act as LR warrenty wouldnt cover the Defenders for some reason. So the supplying dealer had to replace the heater resistor pack and rear demist screen when both were found to be faulty . If they wont offer electrical warrenty on there own cars post the oem one expiring you do have to wonder ..
I've had quite a few RRs over the years from '80s classics onward and have a late L322 now. All but one have been fine with no specific issues.
The first L322 had a leaky head gasket, but that was the BMW V8 lump so hardly something you can say is LR unreliability!
The only really bad one was a P38. Mechanically and electrically a bloody nightmare. They stretched the classic chassis, bored out the engine and loaded electronics onto what was basically a 25 year old car with a new dress, bloody awful. I'd have a classic again, I'd love another LSE, but never going near a P38!
The first L322 had a leaky head gasket, but that was the BMW V8 lump so hardly something you can say is LR unreliability!
The only really bad one was a P38. Mechanically and electrically a bloody nightmare. They stretched the classic chassis, bored out the engine and loaded electronics onto what was basically a 25 year old car with a new dress, bloody awful. I'd have a classic again, I'd love another LSE, but never going near a P38!
mate of mine used to work for LR, designing parts of the electrical system,
they would develop a loom etc and send it for production, before ordering the bean counters would interfere,
if you can save £30 per car it adds up, but pisses the punters off,
the top bosses only saw the £30 saved not the recalls/faults/loss of trust in a car
they would develop a loom etc and send it for production, before ordering the bean counters would interfere,
if you can save £30 per car it adds up, but pisses the punters off,
the top bosses only saw the £30 saved not the recalls/faults/loss of trust in a car
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