New Defender - I’ve had a play!

New Defender - I’ve had a play!

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TheOctaneAddict

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868 posts

54 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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Hi all,

Had chance to test drive a new Defender over the weekend. Thought people might want to read my ramblings.



Land Rover Defender D240 S (£54,200 as tested)

First impressions, I love the design, purposeful yet elegant. It carries styling features from the old car, but fits them into a new, very Land Rover design.



The interior is hard wearing but pleasant to be in. There’s cubby holes aplenty, the centre console and touch screen work well together and it’s packed with tech. Shoutout to the 360° camera! I did find the seats to be too firm, they have lots of adjustment but I couldn’t get comfy. I suspect they are designed to wear very well so maybe they will soften over time.





On road manners are brilliant, the old car handled like a wayward pig. But this feels planted, and although large it does shrink around you. Around town it’s a pleasure, the ride is firm but deals with pot holes and ruts with ease. On bigger roads the ride settles even more giving you confidence in the corners as well as a good cruising ability.



The D240 engine is smooth, has enough power to get you moving and performs overtakes well. One niggle I do have is the occasionally hiccup from the gearbox, downshifting for no reason, only to immediately change back up. I averaged 30mpg across a mix of roads and terrains, respectable for a car this size.

NVH levels are a huge improvement over its predecessor, for the most part the cabin is quiet and vibration free. I did notice a rattle from the front doors as well as fair amount of wind noise at motorway speeds.

Off-road capability is stellar. Raise the suspension, pop it in low range and pick your terrain. I picked out a couple of local trails and had zero problems with them. The suspension and chassis iron out anything you come across, its off-roading on easy mode.





I’m very impressed overall. A vast improvement over the old car little and only some minor niggles. However for the price I can’t think of another car that has this blend of usability,capability and great design.

Thanks for reading!

Blib

45,435 posts

204 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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Will you buy one?

TheOctaneAddict

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868 posts

54 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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Blib said:
Will you buy one?
I don’t have the need for something this big, the 90 could be tempting though.

Tazio77

224 posts

269 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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Silly pricing

TheOctaneAddict

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Sunday 9th August 2020
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Tazio77 said:
Silly pricing
Not really when you consider everything it can do.

Drl22

788 posts

72 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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I couldn’t take this review seriously after I read “elegant design”. Blunt and uncompromising would be more apt, if i was being kind.

freakybacon

560 posts

170 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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My first thoughts when I saw the price was that a Jeep Wrangler had to be cheaper.. it is, but not by much.

LochTay

1,045 posts

72 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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The trails don't look too taxing...

TheOctaneAddict

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Sunday 9th August 2020
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LochTay said:
The trails don't look too taxing...
They weren’t to be fair, I got some decent articulation in a few places l, and go to test a few of the modes. With living in the flattest part of the country it was the best I could do laugh

Louis Balfour

27,645 posts

229 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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The farmers around here have abandoned Land Rovers in favour of Japanese stuff.

I cannot imagine that they will be persuaded back to the brand at £54k, especially when the local main dealer is all but bankrupt and the manufacturer not in the best place either.


Wacky Racer

38,964 posts

254 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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No doubt they will sell every one they can make.

Louis Balfour

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Sunday 9th August 2020
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Wacky Racer said:
No doubt they will sell every one they can make.
I am not sure about that. But I am happy to be proved wrong.

anonymous-user

61 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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Reminds me of something between the Freelander 2 and a Discovery 4. Certainly prefer the looks to the new Disco but it’s too expensive. No doubt bearded hipsters will love trundling around London in them.

TheOctaneAddict

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Sunday 9th August 2020
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wormus said:
Reminds me of something between the Freelander 2 and a Discovery 4. Certainly prefer the looks to the new Disco but it’s too expensive. No doubt bearded hipsters will love trundling around London in them.
They do suit the city environment. It’s a shame as they have so much technology and capability when the tarmac ends.

unsprung

5,817 posts

131 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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wormus said:
but it’s too expensive.
Regrettably, I must agree.

Over here, all six levels of trim offered on the new Bronco have an RRP that is lower than the base model of Defender 110.

Wrangler is similarly affordable.

There is over here a decent market opportunity for Defender, but this will be small and upmarket. It's what JLR want; it's what their business model will allow. There's not much more to say, really.



ettore

4,312 posts

259 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
The farmers around here have abandoned Land Rovers in favour of Japanese stuff.

I cannot imagine that they will be persuaded back to the brand at £54k, especially when the local main dealer is all but bankrupt and the manufacturer not in the best place either.
Didn’t take long - is that a record?

Jeez, try harder!

Louis Balfour

27,645 posts

229 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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ettore said:
Louis Balfour said:
The farmers around here have abandoned Land Rovers in favour of Japanese stuff.

I cannot imagine that they will be persuaded back to the brand at £54k, especially when the local main dealer is all but bankrupt and the manufacturer not in the best place either.
Didn’t take long - is that a record?

Jeez, try harder!
Is that you Mother?

sheepman

439 posts

167 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
The farmers around here have abandoned Land Rovers in favour of Japanese stuff.

I cannot imagine that they will be persuaded back to the brand at £54k, especially when the local main dealer is all but bankrupt and the manufacturer not in the best place either.
why on earth would JLR care about farmers going elsewhere? the Japanese stuff is pretty much disposable junk, farmers run things into the ground before replacing them. Theres a farm near me that has 2 Navara's snapped in half sat in the yard.

nice review, I've seen loads of these around now and think they look really good.

TheOctaneAddict

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Sunday 9th August 2020
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sheepman said:
why on earth would JLR care about farmers going elsewhere? the Japanese stuff is pretty much disposable junk, farmers run things into the ground before replacing them. Theres a farm near me that has 2 Navara's snapped in half sat in the yard.

nice review, I've seen loads of these around now and think they look really good.
Thanks. I’d like to get hold of a wrangler to see how it compares. I imagine the defender is much better on road but the jeep will suit the dirt much better.

Louis Balfour

27,645 posts

229 months

Sunday 9th August 2020
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sheepman said:
why on earth would JLR care about farmers going elsewhere?
Maybe they don't. But since the new Defender is meant to replace the old one I assumed that they might,

Land Rover has enough product in the asperational school run market.