Early 90 internal door handle clips
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Andy-IM said:
Thanks, I think those are accessories for the later handles whereas these clip the door card around the handle base.Just been told they are called bezels and are 79p! Thanks anyway.
CAPP0 said:
Thanks, I think those are accessories for the later handles whereas these clip the door card around the handle base.
Just been told they are called bezels and are 79p! Thanks anyway.
Indeed. The ones in the link aren’t the right bit.Just been told they are called bezels and are 79p! Thanks anyway.
Early Defender doors have two pieces bezels to allow them to fit around the latch housing and clip together (supposedly) once the door card is in place. Like most BL/Austin Rover stuff of the era they’re a rubbish idea and usually fall off.
CAPP0 said:
Still can't find them though so if anyone can help......?
Have a look at the parts bins for other British Leyland cars of the late 70s / early 80s:- Morris Marina / Ital
- Allegro
- 4x door Range Rover
- SD1
- TR7
HTH
M
Edited to add: The 84MY Range Rover 4x door looks to have similar.
Edited by camel_landy on Saturday 25th July 15:42
Well it's been quite a slog but eventually found them, on page 854 of this (which is a really useful site):
http://www.retroanaconda.com/landrover/parts_books...
You ca go back up a level or two to look at other parts of the vehicle.
They're a CZA2259 or CZA2259L and range from a couple of quid to comically expensive depending on which particular marque's parts sales site you're looking at.
Thanks all for your input.
http://www.retroanaconda.com/landrover/parts_books...
You ca go back up a level or two to look at other parts of the vehicle.
They're a CZA2259 or CZA2259L and range from a couple of quid to comically expensive depending on which particular marque's parts sales site you're looking at.
Thanks all for your input.
That version of Land Rover door are notoriously hard to get parts for.
They’re original Ninety/One Ten vintage (as opposed to actual “Defender”) and the latch mechanism is completely unobtainable and not made any more. Saw one on eBay once for over £200....just for the latch, connecting rods and interior handle.
I switched back to correct spec push-button doors on my Defender simply because of spares availability.
They’re original Ninety/One Ten vintage (as opposed to actual “Defender”) and the latch mechanism is completely unobtainable and not made any more. Saw one on eBay once for over £200....just for the latch, connecting rods and interior handle.
I switched back to correct spec push-button doors on my Defender simply because of spares availability.
Crossflow Kid said:
That version of Land Rover door are notoriously hard to get parts for.
They’re original Ninety/One Ten vintage (as opposed to actual “Defender”) and the latch mechanism is completely unobtainable and not made any more. Saw one on eBay once for over £200....just for the latch, connecting rods and interior handle.
I switched back to correct spec push-button doors on my Defender simply because of spares availability.
They’re original Ninety/One Ten vintage (as opposed to actual “Defender”) and the latch mechanism is completely unobtainable and not made any more. Saw one on eBay once for over £200....just for the latch, connecting rods and interior handle.
I switched back to correct spec push-button doors on my Defender simply because of spares availability.
Mine has the "correct" lift-handle doors, being as you say a Ninety not a Defender, and part of the reason for my search is that I'm currently replacing the driver's door which has rotted beyond redemption (and thought I'd replace that missing bezel at the same time) but at £200 for the mechanism I'd have no qualms about sticking a pair of push button doors on if it came to it!
Defender doors is a whole subject of witchcraft and wizardry completely to itself.
And a lot of BS is spouted on many owners forums about what a proper door should be for a proper car and all that goes with such wild assumptions.
On our Defender, which is a 2002 TD5, it had the military style wolf doors fitted, we didn’t choose them, but they came with the car.
So this means it has lift up door handles and sliding window tops.
Several people have told me that just the door tops on their own are worth £600-£800.
I have no idea if that is true, but it’s crazy to think they might be worth it.
And my point, sorry I’m coming to it, in relation to finding that one Elusive part, is like most things it’s worth what you are willing to pay, but some people think they can charge the Earth for something that’s quite rare, just because it’s harder to find, despite being a cheap part.
You only have to look at John Craddocks store up in Cannock, and check out some of the prices for series 1 vehicles, there are some crazy prices for the simplest of items.
In fact what John Craddock and similar companies have done, is literally built a go to market offering , buy buying large amounts of new old stock, mostly surplus crates of LR spares and parts, stuck them in a warehouse and sat on them for years as they have become rarer and hard to find, at which point they know they can price them at 5-10 times what they paid for them.
And who can blame them, it’s business at the end of the day.
But there are also bargains to be found too.
The passenger door on our car had always been bad at closing, and like most defenders had huge gaps letting water and drafts in.
We tried to fix it with some nice, but expensive Optimill alloy dot Hinges, which helped but didn’t fix the problem.
And again, by chance, just last week I stumbled on a video that showed the three stages of the locking mechanism, so open, first latch and then closed.
This was quite a revelation to me, as I then realised it was what was wrong with the latch on that door all along.
So finally I’m getting to the point about spares an the cost of them.
Did a few posts on the usual forums, to be met by horror stories of the latch being super rare, and expensive, and if I was lucky I might find one for £200 plus.
Much like your quest for that hard to find part for your door, I wasn’t convinced that spending that much was necessary.
So I Started digging around online, almost resigned to the fact that I would have to buy a cheap britpart type copy latch.
But in the end I managed to find a brand new old stock Genuline Land Rover part, for £40 including all the nuts bolts and other related hardware.
I fitted it yesterday, it was easy, took about 15 minutes in total and has transformed the way the door closes.
So my long winded answer to your post about a small plastic, hard to find door finisher, is don’t give up, dig deeper and look wider to other models too, just as someone else mentioned.
And good luck with it too!
And if anyone is still listening after all that here’s my pictures from yesterday’s lunch time job of fitting the new latch!
And a lot of BS is spouted on many owners forums about what a proper door should be for a proper car and all that goes with such wild assumptions.
On our Defender, which is a 2002 TD5, it had the military style wolf doors fitted, we didn’t choose them, but they came with the car.
So this means it has lift up door handles and sliding window tops.
Several people have told me that just the door tops on their own are worth £600-£800.
I have no idea if that is true, but it’s crazy to think they might be worth it.
And my point, sorry I’m coming to it, in relation to finding that one Elusive part, is like most things it’s worth what you are willing to pay, but some people think they can charge the Earth for something that’s quite rare, just because it’s harder to find, despite being a cheap part.
You only have to look at John Craddocks store up in Cannock, and check out some of the prices for series 1 vehicles, there are some crazy prices for the simplest of items.
In fact what John Craddock and similar companies have done, is literally built a go to market offering , buy buying large amounts of new old stock, mostly surplus crates of LR spares and parts, stuck them in a warehouse and sat on them for years as they have become rarer and hard to find, at which point they know they can price them at 5-10 times what they paid for them.
And who can blame them, it’s business at the end of the day.
But there are also bargains to be found too.
The passenger door on our car had always been bad at closing, and like most defenders had huge gaps letting water and drafts in.
We tried to fix it with some nice, but expensive Optimill alloy dot Hinges, which helped but didn’t fix the problem.
And again, by chance, just last week I stumbled on a video that showed the three stages of the locking mechanism, so open, first latch and then closed.
This was quite a revelation to me, as I then realised it was what was wrong with the latch on that door all along.
So finally I’m getting to the point about spares an the cost of them.
Did a few posts on the usual forums, to be met by horror stories of the latch being super rare, and expensive, and if I was lucky I might find one for £200 plus.
Much like your quest for that hard to find part for your door, I wasn’t convinced that spending that much was necessary.
So I Started digging around online, almost resigned to the fact that I would have to buy a cheap britpart type copy latch.
But in the end I managed to find a brand new old stock Genuline Land Rover part, for £40 including all the nuts bolts and other related hardware.
I fitted it yesterday, it was easy, took about 15 minutes in total and has transformed the way the door closes.
So my long winded answer to your post about a small plastic, hard to find door finisher, is don’t give up, dig deeper and look wider to other models too, just as someone else mentioned.
And good luck with it too!
And if anyone is still listening after all that here’s my pictures from yesterday’s lunch time job of fitting the new latch!
Oh yes, and sorry forgot in my long response.
I’m pretty sure those are from a Morris Marina/ Ital handle, so I would be looking on Rimmer Brothers and places like that.
You will probably find it somewhere in this lot.
https://rimmerbros.com/ItemSearch--search-Marina-D...
I’m pretty sure those are from a Morris Marina/ Ital handle, so I would be looking on Rimmer Brothers and places like that.
You will probably find it somewhere in this lot.
https://rimmerbros.com/ItemSearch--search-Marina-D...
Military lift-handle latches are different to early civilian Ninety/One Ten lift-handle latches and mechanisms.
The latter has the interior handle further forward (same as where it is on later push button doors) and thus also requires a load of connecting rods, plus they also have classic pop-up locking/unlocking rods poking out the top of the door card, inside the window just forward of the rear upright of the frame, unlike military latches with their tiny semi-rotating lever mounted on the latch mech itself.
That’s why military latches are far cheaper....they’re far simpler and were also used as the rear door lock on all Defenders right through to the end, but unfortunately they will NOT work in early Ninety doors.
The latter has the interior handle further forward (same as where it is on later push button doors) and thus also requires a load of connecting rods, plus they also have classic pop-up locking/unlocking rods poking out the top of the door card, inside the window just forward of the rear upright of the frame, unlike military latches with their tiny semi-rotating lever mounted on the latch mech itself.
That’s why military latches are far cheaper....they’re far simpler and were also used as the rear door lock on all Defenders right through to the end, but unfortunately they will NOT work in early Ninety doors.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 31st July 10:47
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