06-09 Range Rover Sport reliability?

06-09 Range Rover Sport reliability?

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Xpk123

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54 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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With a 2nd baby currently in the oven... been thinking about changing our family diesel. Always loved this shape of Range Rover. The ones I have been looking at online are the 2.7 Diesel engine. Budget would allow for a low mileage 05-08 one, roughly around the 100k miles.

What I want to know is whether they are reliable? Wouldn’t be covering much mileage to be honest, probably around 100 miles a week, maybe max 300 miles a week if we head away for the odd weekend etc. I’ve got my own Impreza which I use for work (only work 3 mile from home). So she would be driving the RR during the week and I’d only get to drive it at weekends likely lol.

So just want to know are they reliable enough and what to look out for when buying etc I know the air bags can give bother from time to time and are expensive to fix but that’s about all I know. Don’t mind the high tax as I’m used to it anyway.

Thanks for reply’s folks

Xpk123

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54 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Oh and what’s the service schedule like on them? How often do timing belts, water pumps etc need changed and any other serviceable items.

Thanks

GT03ROB

13,564 posts

228 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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I have a 55 plate 2.7 diesel. Had from new.

Short answer .... it's been reliable. No major problems or issues.

Xpk123

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Sunday 12th July 2020
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GT03ROB said:
I have a 55 plate 2.7 diesel. Had from new.

Short answer .... it's been reliable. No major problems or issues.
Thanks for the reply.

Have you many miles on it?

Seems to be mixed reviews about them, from what I’ve read. Maybe it’s a case of there being good ones and bad ones.

GT03ROB

13,564 posts

228 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Xpk123 said:
Thanks for the reply.

Have you many miles on it?

Seems to be mixed reviews about them, from what I’ve read. Maybe it’s a case of there being good ones and bad ones.
Around 115k

Other than normal servicing, the only things I've needed were EGR Valve replacements & an a/c control unit. Neither were silly money to fix

Xpk123

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Sunday 12th July 2020
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GT03ROB said:
Around 115k

Other than normal servicing, the only things I've needed were EGR Valve replacements & an a/c control unit. Neither were silly money to fix
That sounds great. Think I will take the chance and look at a few in the coming weeks, see what I think of them.

Cold

15,553 posts

97 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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With a predicted usage of just 100 miles per week I'd be looking at a Supercharged RRS rather than the diesel.

davidexige

511 posts

213 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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If you've not already have a look at rrsport.co.uk you'll find lots of information over there.


Xpk123

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Monday 13th July 2020
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Cold said:
With a predicted usage of just 100 miles per week I'd be looking at a Supercharged RRS rather than the diesel.
I would say Monday-Friday would only be 100 miles a week, but we usually head away for a drive on weekends which would add an extra 100-300 miles roughly. As I’ve said for nipping in and out of town and for me going back and forward to work, we have my Impreza. But for the longer drives I prefer having a diesel as struggle to get 250 miles from a full tank in my Subaru. That’s driving easy too, any sprited driving mixed in at all your chatting 200 miles to £50/60 of petrol, which is not the most economical lol. I’d imagine a supercharged rrs would be even worse!

Xpk123

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Monday 13th July 2020
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davidexige said:
If you've not already have a look at rrsport.co.uk you'll find lots of information over there.
Thanks for the advice! Will take a look now cheers

camel_landy

5,081 posts

190 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Had an 07 TDV8 for 11yrs... Fantastic bit of kit and now has nearly 170,000 miles on it.

Reliability has been mostly good and although there have been a handful of sizeable bills I have been very happy with the car. So much so, I really don't know what I would replace it with as this age of car doesn't have DPF or AdBlue.

The thing you need to remember about these cars is they're in the 'Premium' category... Parts and servicing can be expensive compared to your average 'Eurobox'. So although the purchase price might have come right down, the servicing hasn't. This is what you have to bear in mind as there's going to be a lot of cars kicking around now, where the owners have scrimped on the servicing as it's simply too expensive for them.

These cars are heavy (2.7t) and as such they do get through their consumables... Pads, disks, bushes & tyres.

With regards to the bits you mentioned:
  • The air bags are pretty reliable... It's air compressor which usually gives out.
  • Timing belts on the 2.7 are @ 115k and it's a fairly major job.
If you do want to go down this route, don't bother with the 2.7... Get yourself the 3.6 TDV8 or the 4.2 Supercharged V8. They're both much nicer to drive and if you're not doing massive miles, I'd err on the side of the 4.2 Supercharged.

M

Tyre Smoke

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268 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I've had my Supercharged from 6k miles and it's not had any major issues apart from...

Three handbrake modules at £1k a time.
Two fuel pumps because part of the loom under the bonnet was wired up wrong in Solihull, resulting in a slave pump running backwards and the supercharger water pump doing the same.

Other than upgrades I've done, routine servicing. It's been absolutely brilliant. It's done everything ever asked of it. But at 14mpg, just bear that in mind. You don't buy a Supercharged if you're bothered about fuel economy. And you don't run a Rangey if money is an issue. Not saying they're a money pit, far from it. But you may have a big bill every now and again.

GT03ROB

13,564 posts

228 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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camel_landy said:
Had an 07 TDV8 for 11yrs... Fantastic bit of kit and now has nearly 170,000 miles on it.

Reliability has been mostly good and although there have been a handful of sizeable bills I have been very happy with the car. So much so, I really don't know what I would replace it with as this age of car doesn't have DPF or AdBlue.

The thing you need to remember about these cars is they're in the 'Premium' category... Parts and servicing can be expensive compared to your average 'Eurobox'. So although the purchase price might have come right down, the servicing hasn't. This is what you have to bear in mind as there's going to be a lot of cars kicking around now, where the owners have scrimped on the servicing as it's simply too expensive for them.
There's fair few decent indies who are sensible price wise to keep the servicing down, fortunately I have one a few miles away which helps.

I've though about replacing it, but to be honest with what I'd get for it doesn't seem worth it. Can still drive the length of the country in comfort, with good load carrying capacity. I'd have top spend a lot of money to replace it, which is not worth it when it can still do a good job.

wolf1

3,083 posts

257 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I own an 07 TDV8 and yes it's a lovely place to be but it does come at a price.

Average fuel consumption is 20mpg (rural b roads) Mid 20s on a run 70 to 80 and top end 0f 20s sat at 60.
So far in the last twelve months it's had :-
All 4 wheel bearings
Anti roll bar D bushes and links
Oil cooler (not a quick job on the tdv8)
4 tyres (it has an appetite for them regardless of having the alignment done. If you get alignment done on one make sure they set it at the alignment height using diagnostics otherwise it'll be miles out)
ACE unit flushed and new filter
Gearbox filter and oil changed (started the notorious judder low at lower revs)
All 4 ride height sensors
Compressor rebuilt
and various other bits and bobs including normal servicing
If I didn't own a garage I would have got shut of it by now.

I do a fair bit of work on them and would advise staying clear of the 2.7tdv6. It matters not how much you are going to regularly service it the previous owners may not have and they do have a habit of going bang.
The most common issues apart from the ones I've listed above are
Front suspension arm bushes
Parking brake module (more often than not it's just a broken cable but for some reason a lot of garages don't know how to reset it once the cable is replaced and then end up with the god awful screeching noise)
Brake pipes at the rear corrode quite well
Corrosion is an issue (just had an 05 one in at the inner and outer cills are non existent as well as the rear wheel arches) the suspension arms and chassis don't look too clever either (suspect it's been north of the border a lot or used to launch jet skis etc in the sea.)
Sunroof drain blocks and it soaks the interior
Exhaust link pipe on the rear of the 2.7tdv6 engines splits at the bellows and is a pig to change.
Turbos and actuators can play up on all the diesels however I don't see it anywhere as much as gets mentioned online etc.
EGR valves just like any other diesel.
Torque converters can go (you can usually tell by the revs pulsing between 1500 and 2000rpm holding it steady whilst driving)
The tdv8s and supercharged models have the strongest engines.

The age bracket ones you are looking at will probably bit a bit on the leggy side but there are plenty of good ones out there to choose from just go in with your eyes wide open and get under it and have a good look. You want a stack of service history backed up with invoices and not just a book that's been stamped up. If you are at all not sure, walk away there are plenty others out there.

Xpk123

Original Poster:

22 posts

54 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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camel_landy said:
Had an 07 TDV8 for 11yrs... Fantastic bit of kit and now has nearly 170,000 miles on it.

Reliability has been mostly good and although there have been a handful of sizeable bills I have been very happy with the car. So much so, I really don't know what I would replace it with as this age of car doesn't have DPF or AdBlue.

The thing you need to remember about these cars is they're in the 'Premium' category... Parts and servicing can be expensive compared to your average 'Eurobox'. So although the purchase price might have come right down, the servicing hasn't. This is what you have to bear in mind as there's going to be a lot of cars kicking around now, where the owners have scrimped on the servicing as it's simply too expensive for them.

These cars are heavy (2.7t) and as such they do get through their consumables... Pads, disks, bushes & tyres.

With regards to the bits you mentioned:
  • The air bags are pretty reliable... It's air compressor which usually gives out.
  • Timing belts on the 2.7 are @ 115k and it's a fairly major job.
If you do want to go down this route, don't bother with the 2.7... Get yourself the 3.6 TDV8 or the 4.2 Supercharged V8. They're both much nicer to drive and if you're not doing massive miles, I'd err on the side of the 4.2 Supercharged.

M
Thanks for the reply mate. Yours seems to have treated you well.

Don’t mind servicing costs so much and can do the likes of oil changes and air/fuel filter changes myself. Although the timing belt and anything more mechanically minded I would leave to my mechanics. Which are very competent and not hard to pay. I would go as far to say that they’re isn’t a car that they haven’t worked on, have seen many of RR in there yard over the years so I dare say they know there way around them pretty good too.

Again thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

Xpk123

Original Poster:

22 posts

54 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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wolf1 said:
I own an 07 TDV8 and yes it's a lovely place to be but it does come at a price.

Average fuel consumption is 20mpg (rural b roads) Mid 20s on a run 70 to 80 and top end 0f 20s sat at 60.
So far in the last twelve months it's had :-
All 4 wheel bearings
Anti roll bar D bushes and links
Oil cooler (not a quick job on the tdv8)
4 tyres (it has an appetite for them regardless of having the alignment done. If you get alignment done on one make sure they set it at the alignment height using diagnostics otherwise it'll be miles out)
ACE unit flushed and new filter
Gearbox filter and oil changed (started the notorious judder low at lower revs)
All 4 ride height sensors
Compressor rebuilt
and various other bits and bobs including normal servicing
If I didn't own a garage I would have got shut of it by now.

I do a fair bit of work on them and would advise staying clear of the 2.7tdv6. It matters not how much you are going to regularly service it the previous owners may not have and they do have a habit of going bang.
The most common issues apart from the ones I've listed above are
Front suspension arm bushes
Parking brake module (more often than not it's just a broken cable but for some reason a lot of garages don't know how to reset it once the cable is replaced and then end up with the god awful screeching noise)
Brake pipes at the rear corrode quite well
Corrosion is an issue (just had an 05 one in at the inner and outer cills are non existent as well as the rear wheel arches) the suspension arms and chassis don't look too clever either (suspect it's been north of the border a lot or used to launch jet skis etc in the sea.)
Sunroof drain blocks and it soaks the interior
Exhaust link pipe on the rear of the 2.7tdv6 engines splits at the bellows and is a pig to change.
Turbos and actuators can play up on all the diesels however I don't see it anywhere as much as gets mentioned online etc.
EGR valves just like any other diesel.
Torque converters can go (you can usually tell by the revs pulsing between 1500 and 2000rpm holding it steady whilst driving)
The tdv8s and supercharged models have the strongest engines.

The age bracket ones you are looking at will probably bit a bit on the leggy side but there are plenty of good ones out there to choose from just go in with your eyes wide open and get under it and have a good look. You want a stack of service history backed up with invoices and not just a book that's been stamped up. If you are at all not sure, walk away there are plenty others out there.
Thanks for the reply
You seem to know what you are chatting about!

In all fairness if all that happened any car of mine in the first few months I’d defiantly get rid of it. I’m a firm believer in the statement “once a dose always a dose”

The reason I asked this question about reliability, is because my friend has an 07 x5 this past two years and I’m not joking, the car has a trip to the mechanics atleast once a month for something, whether it be a sensor, light on the dash, or something more serious. I do believe he has changed 85% of parts on it in the two years he’s owned it. I told him after the first couple of months get rid of it and buy another one but he wouldn’t listen.

If I do buy one it will have to be a well looked after, 100k max, bunch of service history and preferably a one maybe two owner car.

I will consider the v8 diesel also, pretty sure the tax is the same on both anyway? Just thought if the 2.7 was a decent engine, it would do as neither of us is after power etc. I’ve my own car for fun, this will just be a cruising vehicle for long runs away at wkends etc

Thanks for the reply much appreciated

bogie

16,611 posts

279 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I have had a 2008 4.2 supercharged for 8 years now. Purchased with 30k miles on it, now at 130k miles.

Very reliable overall. Just usual consumables, things like bonnet sensor, ABS transducer, suspension bushes. £250 a service every 15k miles at independent. Some years maybe £500 of service bills, obviously £800 of tyres bumps up the cost every couple of years.

Then it dropped the big one a couple of years ago at 115k miles ish. The electronic anti roll bars were leaking fluid. So its £800 to £1600 each end in parts and body off, couple of days labour. £4k bill at indy.

Dunno how much difference road tax is diesel vs petrol, but for a couple of hundred quid and low personal mileage user, Id enjoy a V8 whilst they are still legal ...one day they wont exist frown


Cold

15,553 posts

97 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Tyre Smoke said:
Three handbrake modules at £1k a time.
You might be interested to know that these PITA modules are now rebuildable. Both the gearset and cables are available. thumbup
Obviously you still have some labour involved but the outright cost of a new module is reduced considerably.




Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

268 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I shall investigate that next time I hear the dreaded screeching from the the rear!

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To be fair, it's my own fault, my garage keep telling me ' to use the f--king handbrake!'

bogie

16,611 posts

279 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Real world fuel economy on my V8 is 18mpg average and 25-27mpg sat at 80mph on the motorway on longer journeys with the cruise on. Not as bad you think and certainly not clear cut choice between diesel economy. The later bigger diesel engines got better.