NEW Defender Commercial

NEW Defender Commercial

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Phooey

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12,812 posts

176 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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Hi, does anyone have any details or info on when the Defender Commercial will be launched or what we can expect? I did read something about "optional jump seat", I assume this is a 3rd pull down seat in the back? Toying with the idea of another pick-up, looked at a Discovery Commercial but a bit pricey and only 2 seats so wonder if it's worth holding off for the Defender scratchchin

Cheers

blueST

4,469 posts

223 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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I think the jump seat is the optional central seat in the front over trans tunnel. It’ll be cozy

scottydoesntknow

860 posts

64 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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Press junket rather than advert but should give you a good idea.

https://youtu.be/CNkb3hAF9R4

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Friday 29th May 2020
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Phooey said:
Hi, does anyone have any details or info on when the Defender Commercial will be launched or what we can expect? I did read something about "optional jump seat", I assume this is a 3rd pull down seat in the back? Toying with the idea of another pick-up, looked at a Discovery Commercial but a bit pricey and only 2 seats so wonder if it's worth holding off for the Defender scratchchin

Cheers
Is the Defender commercial likely to be significantly cheaper? Have you had a look at the Ineos Grenadier? Still a way off launch, but looking to be superb.

Phooey

Original Poster:

12,812 posts

176 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Thank you for replies

Phooey

Original Poster:

12,812 posts

176 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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I was really looking forward to the Hardtop Commercial being officially announced but so disappointed the 90 is only available with the 200hp engine. I wouldn't buy a 90 (200) so tried to convince myself to spec and order a 110 although It's not what I really want, and at the price it's coming out at I think I'm going to give it a miss. So, instead of buying one at launch I will probably sit back and see what comes of them in the Used car classifieds in a year or two. I do really like it though, but it'd have to be a 90 with at the very least the 250hp unit..

90 200hp £58427 (inc VAT)
https://build.landrover/01A55A42


110 hse 300hp £77890 (inc VAT)
https://build.landrover/1A56784A


110 250hp £64937 (inc VAT)
https://build.landrover/27E8945F


NomduJour

19,488 posts

266 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Same, the weakest engine and no air suspension means it’s not for me. Disappointing.

Phooey

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12,812 posts

176 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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NomduJour said:
Same, the weakest engine and no air suspension means it’s not for me. Disappointing.
I would be amazed if LR don't offer the higher output engines at a later date. And I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see these discounted in a year or two. To me, for a commercial, they just don't stack up at this kind of money. LR is taking the piss with the option costs - for example, electric towbar on my cayenne was £850 whereas on the Def it's £1200! 22" wheels on one of the specs above was £5k+. It's a Defender not a RR. I'm happy to pay to play to an extent, and as much as I like the new Defender Hardtop, it doesn't make me want to spend premium money on a posh van.

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Phooey said:
110 hse 300hp £77890 (inc VAT)
https://build.landrover/1A56784A
laugh

Horsey McHorseface

2,630 posts

191 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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What price the previous version Defender 90 commercial?

What are those silver rectangular things, attached to the rear?

Phooey

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12,812 posts

176 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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To be fair I don’t think you can compare this to the previous def commercial, but my point is in the right spec (for me - 300hp, some toys etc) it’s tapping on the door money-wise of the RRS, RR etc. For a Commercial vehicle. It’s not a luxury 5/7 seater as the price would suggest.


g7jtk

1,776 posts

161 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Only two things wrong with it.
1. Rubbish colours
2. Too expensive
Maybe a basic entry spec at say £25k then move on to the exotic spec models

eliot

11,725 posts

261 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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I’ve heard that the commercial has live axles?

















might be trolling.




Shanksy87

381 posts

129 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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I don't see the D200 as an issue going forward, being the 6 pot the torque is plenty so it will do whatever you need.

NomduJour

19,488 posts

266 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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Seems shortsighted to give only the weakest engine to the one that might actually do some towing.

Osinjak

5,453 posts

128 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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Christ, those prices.

eek

The Wookie

14,038 posts

235 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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NomduJour said:
Seems shortsighted to give only the weakest engine to the one that might actually do some towing.
Weirdly enough it’s the 6 pot detuned rather than the basic 4 pot

Got to be a cheeky remap away from 300bhp

NomduJour

19,488 posts

266 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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Yes, still seems odd when the 110 gets the options.

Caddyshack

11,793 posts

213 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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Phooey said:
NomduJour said:
Same, the weakest engine and no air suspension means it’s not for me. Disappointing.
I would be amazed if LR don't offer the higher output engines at a later date. And I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see these discounted in a year or two. To me, for a commercial, they just don't stack up at this kind of money. LR is taking the piss with the option costs - for example, electric towbar on my cayenne was £850 whereas on the Def it's £1200! 22" wheels on one of the specs above was £5k+. It's a Defender not a RR. I'm happy to pay to play to an extent, and as much as I like the new Defender Hardtop, it doesn't make me want to spend premium money on a posh van.
You do not want 22" alloys on a defender...they are terrible for ride and tyre compliance on my Rangie, I often use 19’s with much bigger tyres on mine, it drives so much better. If they sold the 22’s cheaper than Rangie stuff people would buy them and not buy the bling Rangie ones.

Phooey

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12,812 posts

176 months

Sunday 20th September 2020
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Caddyshack said:
You do not want 22" alloys on a defender...they are terrible for ride and tyre compliance on my Rangie, I often use 19’s with much bigger tyres on mine, it drives so much better. If they sold the 22’s cheaper than Rangie stuff people would buy them and not buy the bling Rangie ones.
That is actually a good point re 22's that I'd not really given much thought too. I've decided against a Defender for now anyway, and I've ended up taking delivery of a new Mercedes X-Class 350d whilst there was still some unregistered stock floating about (the X-Class is discontinued now). I'd of most probably put an order in for a Defender if the higher output engines had of been an option in the 90 and the price of some of the options had been a bit more sensible but as it is I'll sit this one out for now and keep an eye out for either a used one in a couple of years or if LR add the 250/300 engine.