New Defender.. anybody placed a deposit?

New Defender.. anybody placed a deposit?

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mikeh501

Original Poster:

754 posts

188 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Im guessing i'm well behind the curve, but anybody placed a deposit on one yet? and any ideas from the stealer on timelines and pricing?


bakerstreet

4,822 posts

172 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Being shown at the Frankfurt show and order books opening in Jan. This was the last article I read, but I recon dealers have been taking deposits for over a year and maybe longer.

I have been thinking about it, bit I think it's just going to be too expensive 😕

GiveItSomeWellie

3,037 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Went to my local dealer a couple of months back and spoke to a salesman who said they're currently taking £1000 refundable deposits on new Defender. He said that would get you on the waiting list and it would guarantee you invites to previews and maybe other things organised by Land Rover between now and delivery. He didn't give any indication of timelines, prices, options or anything.

I went in the next day to place my deposit and was met with a lady on reception who wasn't aware of new Defender, and didn't seem particularly keen to help me. There were no salesmen available at the time, so I left and haven't returned. Still on the fence but the more I read, the more I think it's going to be too pricey for me at the moment.

Renny

206 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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I've just had the LR Salesman that we've dealt with for a number of years ask if we want to put a deposit down. My response was that I presumed it was a refundable deposit to secure a slot for the first batches.
Difficult when there is so little information out there, but I can't see us replacing our current D4 with a D5 - too big, too ugly and too expensive. We bough the D4 after LR were unable to give a delivery date for a Disco Sport at the point they changed over to the Ingenium engines, so a bit wary of any "First Edition" new models.
It'll be a big change for us if we don't like the Defender having purchased Discoveries since 1995 as our main family car.

chappj

337 posts

150 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Our local dealer said they have taken 10 deposits sor far

100SRV

2,177 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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I'll wait and keep saving for a Rivian R1T instead.

CAPP0

19,900 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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In the camo pics JLR are tweeting currently it simply looks like a slightly messed-with D3/D4. I can't upload a pic for some reason. Try this: https://twitter.com/LandRover_UK/status/1123155796...

Crumpet

4,059 posts

187 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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CAPP0 said:
In the camo pics JLR are tweeting currently it simply looks like a slightly messed-with D3/D4. I can't upload a pic for some reason. Try this: https://twitter.com/LandRover_UK/status/1123155796...
You say that like it’s a bad thing? Most people seem to be seeing it as a positive, especially D4 owners who have been disappointed with the D5.

CAPP0

19,900 posts

210 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Crumpet said:
CAPP0 said:
In the camo pics JLR are tweeting currently it simply looks like a slightly messed-with D3/D4. I can't upload a pic for some reason. Try this: https://twitter.com/LandRover_UK/status/1123155796...
You say that like it’s a bad thing? Most people seem to be seeing it as a positive, especially D4 owners who have been disappointed with the D5.
Well, not exactly. The D3/4 was a good car with a strong following. I'd have looked at a D4 if (a) there was a decent petrol option and (b) MrsC had been slightly more tolerant of the shape. Which is why I ended up in another FFRR.

But whilst a Disco-based Defender will, I'm sure, do the job admirably, it's not very imaginative, and you could say it reflects JLR's D5 own goal.

The Discovery was always a luxury-level up from the Defender and I still think they need something utilitarian if they want to sell to the "right" buyer.

Ability to hose the interior out would be key. I'm midway through converting my D90 to 3.9 Auto from 3.5 Manual and I'm tempted to bling up the interior but then again with ally floors and the ECU in a Dribox, I have no concerns about removing any muck!

bakerstreet

4,822 posts

172 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Well, not exactly. The D3/4 was a good car with a strong following. I'd have looked at a D4 if (a) there was a decent petrol option and (b) MrsC had been slightly more tolerant of the shape. Which is why I ended up in another FFRR.

But whilst a Disco-based Defender will, I'm sure, do the job admirably, it's not very imaginative, and you could say it reflects JLR's D5 own goal.

The Discovery was always a luxury-level up from the Defender and I still think they need something utilitarian if they want to sell to the "right" buyer.

Ability to hose the interior out would be key. I'm midway through converting my D90 to 3.9 Auto from 3.5 Manual and I'm tempted to bling up the interior but then again with ally floors and the ECU in a Dribox, I have no concerns about removing any muck!
The ability to hose down an interior may be key for what you want but I am pretty damn sure LR will not care one bit about that. Sadly this comes up a lot in any discussion on the new Defender. I have spent quite a bit of time applying sound deadening and carpet to my Series 3. Upsets the purists, but there is literally nothing to to lower the NVH in a Series, especially as mine is a commercial bodied variant.

Latest article I read suggests a Frankfurt Show launch, but I don't really see why LR need to launch it at a motor show. It deserves it's own dedicated event.

If its live streamed during working hours, I shall be booking myself a meeting room and watching it,live, but knowing Land Rover, the page will probably crash!

GiveItSomeWellie

3,037 posts

203 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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bakerstreet said:
knowing Land Rover, the page will probably crash!
I remember tuning in to their 70th Anniversary live stream, due to issues it was nearly an hour late starting hehe

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Crumpet said:
CAPP0 said:
In the camo pics JLR are tweeting currently it simply looks like a slightly messed-with D3/D4. I can't upload a pic for some reason. Try this: https://twitter.com/LandRover_UK/status/1123155796...
You say that like it’s a bad thing? Most people seem to be seeing it as a positive, especially D4 owners who have been disappointed with the D5.
I think it's a positive if you want a Discovery. If you are hoping for a Defender it's rather a let down however. Maybe LR would be better calling it the Discovery Series 4b instead of Defender biggrin

I like Discovery's, but there is no denying the 5 is a departure in too many ways from the core Discovery buyer market and is really pitched at a rather different place in the market.

jonah35

3,940 posts

164 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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I’ve been on since 2017

jonah35

3,940 posts

164 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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I’ve been on since 2017

petemurphy

10,236 posts

190 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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good new pics here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-701...

considering a deposit!



Edited by petemurphy on Thursday 9th May 19:18

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Umm. I’m not saying it doesn’t look like an ok SUV. But I can see no resemblance or design language akin to the Defender linage.

Jeep seem to do rather well keeping even the JL Wrangler looking much like the original GP1. It’s heritage is very clear.

These new pics it could be a Shogun under the wrap for all I know. If I wasn’t being told it is meant to be a new Defender.

CAPP0

19,900 posts

210 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
Umm. I’m not saying it doesn’t look like an ok SUV. But I can see no resemblance or design language akin to the Defender linage.
That's a decent take on it.

It does look less like a D3/D4 - maybe a bit chunkier? Be good to see the final result. But it's still not going to be something which someone with a bag of spanners can fart about with (as I've been doing with mine this evening!)

cptsideways

13,646 posts

259 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Been seeing a couple all week, looks great in swb I must say, the teaser pics so far don't really reveal too much detail but it's got all the old LR cues we like by the looks of things.

It does look rather like a big Jimny, which I think is a good thing thumbup




Cold

15,557 posts

97 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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CAPP0 said:
But it's still not going to be something which someone with a bag of spanners can fart about with (as I've been doing with mine this evening!)
Why not? It's not a mobile phone, it's a car with lots and lots of metal car bits on it.

petemurphy

10,236 posts

190 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
Umm. I’m not saying it doesn’t look like an ok SUV. But I can see no resemblance or design language akin to the Defender linage.

Jeep seem to do rather well keeping even the JL Wrangler looking much like the original GP1. It’s heritage is very clear.

These new pics it could be a Shogun under the wrap for all I know. If I wasn’t being told it is meant to be a new Defender.
really what about the crease all the way down the side and the tyre on the door? yes it's looking a bit generic land rover but to me its looking like a shorter disco 4 and as an owner of a disco 4 thats perfect for me!