Evoque Reliability? Mixed Messages
Discussion
My Fiancee is planning to buy an evoque - it's her favourite car, and shes been in love with them for years, especially when she heard about the park pack! 😂
The only thing putting her off is the reliability. We'll definitely be buying a used one, and hoping to get something under 100k miles (because it sounds like a good maximum, but we know nothing about cars), and under the £15k mark, so it'll be an earlier model. I've read posts that say they're bulletproof, but I've also read that they're money pits. Which is it?
She was hoping to buy an evoque ,and it would last her years and years as her nicest, most reliable car. A huge upgrade to her old 2003 polo, and her current 2004 mx5!
After reading bad comments online, She's sad that it might not be the dream car she always wanted.
The only thing putting her off is the reliability. We'll definitely be buying a used one, and hoping to get something under 100k miles (because it sounds like a good maximum, but we know nothing about cars), and under the £15k mark, so it'll be an earlier model. I've read posts that say they're bulletproof, but I've also read that they're money pits. Which is it?
She was hoping to buy an evoque ,and it would last her years and years as her nicest, most reliable car. A huge upgrade to her old 2003 polo, and her current 2004 mx5!
After reading bad comments online, She's sad that it might not be the dream car she always wanted.
The Mad Monk said:
Don't buy an Evoque - with or without a warranty.
Buy almost anything other than a JLR.
Toyota would good.
p.s. If she does buy an Evoque, you won't be short of material for posts on here!
Have you actually owned anything LR? Can you substantiate your claims with anything other than your opinion?Buy almost anything other than a JLR.
Toyota would good.
p.s. If she does buy an Evoque, you won't be short of material for posts on here!
As for Toyota, they aren't immune to issues. And they don't really sell anything directly comparable to most LR products. At least not in the UK market. So they make for a bit of a non choice option really.
300bhp/ton said:
The Mad Monk said:
Don't buy an Evoque - with or without a warranty.
Buy almost anything other than a JLR.
Toyota would good.
p.s. If she does buy an Evoque, you won't be short of material for posts on here!
Have you actually owned anything LR? Can you substantiate your claims with anything other than your opinion?Buy almost anything other than a JLR.
Toyota would good.
p.s. If she does buy an Evoque, you won't be short of material for posts on here!
As for Toyota, they aren't immune to issues. And they don't really sell anything directly comparable to most LR products. At least not in the UK market. So they make for a bit of a non choice option really.
https://www.osv.ltd.uk/how-reliable-are-land-rover...
Would you dispute, that, as a generalisation, Toyota are more reliable than Land Rover?
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-6...
Edited by The Mad Monk on Friday 1st March 09:03
In the two years from new we've had an engine replaced and a dodgy turbo that appears to have been slowly poisoning the wife with fumes... That said, it's all been sorted under warranty. There is a known issue with some of the Ingenium engines and anecdotally I hear it affects a lot of cars. That said, it's all been sorted out with very little hassle on our part. There are plenty of people that have had no issues at all.
Sam-9y2yw said:
My Fiancee is planning to buy an evoque - it's her favourite car, and shes been in love with them for years, especially when she heard about the park pack! ??
The only thing putting her off is the reliability. We'll definitely be buying a used one, and hoping to get something under 100k miles (because it sounds like a good maximum, but we know nothing about cars), and under the £15k mark, so it'll be an earlier model. I've read posts that say they're bulletproof, but I've also read that they're money pits. Which is it?
She was hoping to buy an evoque ,and it would last her years and years as her nicest, most reliable car. A huge upgrade to her old 2003 polo, and her current 2004 mx5!
After reading bad comments online, She's sad that it might not be the dream car she always wanted.
One post in one month. Doubt you will even reply to this thread, let alone get involved in a discussion. The only thing putting her off is the reliability. We'll definitely be buying a used one, and hoping to get something under 100k miles (because it sounds like a good maximum, but we know nothing about cars), and under the £15k mark, so it'll be an earlier model. I've read posts that say they're bulletproof, but I've also read that they're money pits. Which is it?
She was hoping to buy an evoque ,and it would last her years and years as her nicest, most reliable car. A huge upgrade to her old 2003 polo, and her current 2004 mx5!
After reading bad comments online, She's sad that it might not be the dream car she always wanted.
At £15k, you should be able to get a decent warranty . Maybe a year included in the sale and then add another £300 or so for another year. My experience of an aftermarket warranty hasn't been good though, so do your research,
Yes, you will find lots of bad things posted on the internet about the Evoque and many other LR products for that matter, but they have less to go wrong when compared to other LRs. No air suspension for a s start and that is bug bear of Discos and RRs.
[quote]Have you actually owned anything LR? Can you substantiate your claims with anything other than your opinion?
As for Toyota, they aren't immune to issues. And they don't really sell anything directly comparable to most LR products. At least not in the UK market. So they make for a bit of a non choice option really.
What keeps them going is the people's love for the brand and their capability, but remember that LR were selling £80K RRs in 2014 that leaked! T
There is also an unwritten code that FFRR owners keep quiet about faults that they have experienced for the first year or so.
Anyways, I think JLR will be a very different car company in a few years and thats if Jaguar even exists at all. The Defender certainly won't be enough the balance the books. Too little too late.
As for Evoque. She should just crack on. Good looking cars and re-invented LR in some ways. Interior is excellent. However if kids are on the radar, I genuinely wouldn't bother. Not big enough in almost every dimension.
So should I surmise that you've not owned one as you dodged that question? I also never said anything about LR being more reliable than Toyota, I said Toyota are not immune to issues.
The biggest stumbling block with Toyota is, most of their range is fugly and boring.
Sure on face value top and bottom might look far apart, but that is only because such surveys force a rank order list. Often the actual numbers behind the lists are a lot closer.
As an example, JD Power currently use a PP100 scale for dependability. This is number of issues per 100 vehicles.
Top was Lexus with 99 and yes Land Rover near the bottom with 204.
But lets look at this more closely, what the stats are saying is, out of 100 Lexus vehicles, all but 1 had a problem. With Land Rover they are saying almost all the vehicles had 2 problems.
This might be a factor of 100% more, but when going from 1 to 2 it really isn't much to cry about. If it was a case of every Land Rover had 10 issues, then that would be hugely different. But this isn't the case.
Last place in the JD Power list is Chrysler with 211. But again all this is saying is, on average all of their vehicles have about 2 issues, while the best in the industry still suffer 1 issue with every vehicle.
So what this says is, ALL modern cars are reliable.
The biggest stumbling block with Toyota is, most of their range is fugly and boring.
The Mad Monk said:
This was my first quick Google.
https://www.osv.ltd.uk/how-reliable-are-land-rover...
Would you dispute, that, as a generalisation, Toyota are more reliable than Land Rover?
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-6...
As for reliability surveys, you need to read into the stats. As many also rate other factors besides reliability. And I'm yet to see one where first and last place haven't actually been pretty close overall.https://www.osv.ltd.uk/how-reliable-are-land-rover...
Would you dispute, that, as a generalisation, Toyota are more reliable than Land Rover?
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-6...
Edited by The Mad Monk on Friday 1st March 09:03
Sure on face value top and bottom might look far apart, but that is only because such surveys force a rank order list. Often the actual numbers behind the lists are a lot closer.
As an example, JD Power currently use a PP100 scale for dependability. This is number of issues per 100 vehicles.
Top was Lexus with 99 and yes Land Rover near the bottom with 204.
But lets look at this more closely, what the stats are saying is, out of 100 Lexus vehicles, all but 1 had a problem. With Land Rover they are saying almost all the vehicles had 2 problems.
This might be a factor of 100% more, but when going from 1 to 2 it really isn't much to cry about. If it was a case of every Land Rover had 10 issues, then that would be hugely different. But this isn't the case.
Last place in the JD Power list is Chrysler with 211. But again all this is saying is, on average all of their vehicles have about 2 issues, while the best in the industry still suffer 1 issue with every vehicle.
So what this says is, ALL modern cars are reliable.
The Mad Monk said:
The exception that proves the rule!
You really expect any car to have zero faults over several years of ownership?I’d count a minor fix under warranty for a fault common to a lot of cars inconsequential.
In contrast my bullet proof German Cayenne had most of the wiring at the back end of it replaced under warranty last year
ETA and worst of all you’ve now set 300bhp off. I’m out.
Well 4 years into ownership of a dynamic lux, bought with 40K on the clock and now approaching 77K, an early one 2012. Great car, had an alternator, battery and door lock (v common apparently) to date which isnt bad and way less than others i have owned! Great interior, not showing wear and feels very nice to be in, still looks good too. I say get one with a full service history and you should be okay. In terms of space we have three kids and dont struggle with space although we dont tend to go on camping trips!
REALIST123 said:
In terms of reliability LR came 22nd in a recent J D Power survey.
Audi were 23rd; BMW 25th.
Jaguar were 17th and Toyota 9th.
Seems that if you want reliability above all else a Hyundai is for you............
I Googled:-Audi were 23rd; BMW 25th.
Jaguar were 17th and Toyota 9th.
Seems that if you want reliability above all else a Hyundai is for you............
"UK Car Reliability Survey"
This was the first response
https://www.whatcar.com/news/2018-what-car-reliabi...
In the Luxury SUV section, Range Rover were least reliable.
The Mad Monk said:
REALIST123 said:
In terms of reliability LR came 22nd in a recent J D Power survey.
Audi were 23rd; BMW 25th.
Jaguar were 17th and Toyota 9th.
Seems that if you want reliability above all else a Hyundai is for you............
I Googled:-Audi were 23rd; BMW 25th.
Jaguar were 17th and Toyota 9th.
Seems that if you want reliability above all else a Hyundai is for you............
"UK Car Reliability Survey"
This was the first response
https://www.whatcar.com/news/2018-what-car-reliabi...
In the Luxury SUV section, Range Rover were least reliable.
psp said:
Well 4 years into ownership of a dynamic lux, bought with 40K on the clock and now approaching 77K, an early one 2012. Great car, had an alternator, battery and door lock (v common apparently) to date which isnt bad and way less than others i have owned! Great interior, not showing wear and feels very nice to be in, still looks good too. I say get one with a full service history and you should be okay. In terms of space we have three kids and dont struggle with space although we dont tend to go on camping trips!
What is a stamp in a book going to tell you? I want to see invoices or at least a print out of what was done to the car. Most of the things that have gone wrong with my cars have been nothing to do with weather the oil has been changed on time. e as its j
I would say the Evoque is probably the least risky LR out there as its just not as complex as other cars in the LR range.
The Halewood built cars till recently have all had the Ford based bits & systems eg the Peugeot/Ford engine & FoMoCo drivetrains (same as a 4wd Kuga with some LR software). These early cars were the good ones.
One can assume with the new Ingenium & in the near future infotainment taken from the rest of the reliable JLR range then the Halewood Halo might start falling off. Hopefully JLR staff cull includes those responsible for the software system & it all magically gets fixed. The base vehicle engineering is brilliant but let down by software of their own doing.
A 3 door Ewok is one of my favourite car designs
One can assume with the new Ingenium & in the near future infotainment taken from the rest of the reliable JLR range then the Halewood Halo might start falling off. Hopefully JLR staff cull includes those responsible for the software system & it all magically gets fixed. The base vehicle engineering is brilliant but let down by software of their own doing.
A 3 door Ewok is one of my favourite car designs
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