Range Rover LSE values
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Having owned two RRC's previously, both 3.9 Vogue SE's, one hard dash one soft dash, I'm tempted by an LSE as my next weekend car.
Problem is, I'm struggling to put a value on them! Good ones were £10k not long ago; now anything under £10k looks pretty ropey, and the sky's the limit for mint or restored example!
So just wondering what the consensus is for a restored LSE, which is what I'd be looking for; the likes of Kingsley Cars would suggest £35k+, but that feels VERY strong to me. Thoughts?
Problem is, I'm struggling to put a value on them! Good ones were £10k not long ago; now anything under £10k looks pretty ropey, and the sky's the limit for mint or restored example!
So just wondering what the consensus is for a restored LSE, which is what I'd be looking for; the likes of Kingsley Cars would suggest £35k+, but that feels VERY strong to me. Thoughts?
Prices do seem to be climbing as there really aren't too many about. Kingsley tend to be at the top end of prices, I've never seen any of their cars in the flesh but they appear to sell stuff that's a pretty high standard.
I've seen a few around the £25k mark that are Japanese imports so tend to be in better condition in terms of rust.
Quick ebay search throws up a few for sale ranging from £5k - £25k. A shoddy car could quite easily eat up £20k in restoration costs if the body work isn't up to much so sometimes the cheaper end can be a false economy.
Great cars though if you can find a nice one
I've seen a few around the £25k mark that are Japanese imports so tend to be in better condition in terms of rust.
Quick ebay search throws up a few for sale ranging from £5k - £25k. A shoddy car could quite easily eat up £20k in restoration costs if the body work isn't up to much so sometimes the cheaper end can be a false economy.
Great cars though if you can find a nice one
There's a long thread in classics about rrc, worth a read (it is long).
LSEs seem to divide opinion re looks and proportions. I like mine and its what I wanted but I couldn't honestly say why.
They have the usual rot spots and add to that the bottom of the back doors as they simply cut them, welded in 8" and painted over.
Price - as has been said it varies but one that has evidence of being apart and nciely put back together is going to £25k+.
Soft v hard dash - again personal choice. I like the softs but others don't. Soft dash cars rust more for sure.
Private sale if you get lucky you'll find a fairly solid example, maybe a little rough around the edges for towards £10k. Take off the rough edges and that's £15k. Personally I wouldn't buy one that hadn't been apart as I know from personal experience you can't alwasy see the extent of the rust until panels come off.
Beyond that its what someone will pay. I read somewhere there are only 35 or so soft dash LSEs about. Not sure I believe that but I imagine it comes from howmanyleft. Even if its close then availability is clearly declining.
LSEs seem to divide opinion re looks and proportions. I like mine and its what I wanted but I couldn't honestly say why.
They have the usual rot spots and add to that the bottom of the back doors as they simply cut them, welded in 8" and painted over.
Price - as has been said it varies but one that has evidence of being apart and nciely put back together is going to £25k+.
Soft v hard dash - again personal choice. I like the softs but others don't. Soft dash cars rust more for sure.
Private sale if you get lucky you'll find a fairly solid example, maybe a little rough around the edges for towards £10k. Take off the rough edges and that's £15k. Personally I wouldn't buy one that hadn't been apart as I know from personal experience you can't alwasy see the extent of the rust until panels come off.
Beyond that its what someone will pay. I read somewhere there are only 35 or so soft dash LSEs about. Not sure I believe that but I imagine it comes from howmanyleft. Even if its close then availability is clearly declining.
I think it's quite simple, I have 5 LSE currently so think I know a thing or two about the proper values.
Rough ones, ones in need of work are £1-5k, 5k they need to be in good order but just require too much work, maybe on rot etc..
Averages ones are £5-10k, high mileage or needing bits here and there, corrosion etc..
Good examples are £10-12k.
Very good are £12-15k
Excellent/Restored are £15k+ but not above £20k.
You'll see people advertising them at more and dealers will get more but privately you won't be able to sell a bloody good one for more than £15k at most in my humble opinion. Most people with good cars will send up having to take around £10k ish.
Rough ones, ones in need of work are £1-5k, 5k they need to be in good order but just require too much work, maybe on rot etc..
Averages ones are £5-10k, high mileage or needing bits here and there, corrosion etc..
Good examples are £10-12k.
Very good are £12-15k
Excellent/Restored are £15k+ but not above £20k.
You'll see people advertising them at more and dealers will get more but privately you won't be able to sell a bloody good one for more than £15k at most in my humble opinion. Most people with good cars will send up having to take around £10k ish.
Scotland1975 said:
I think it's quite simple, I have 5 LSE currently so think I know a thing or two about the proper values.
Rough ones, ones in need of work are £1-5k, 5k they need to be in good order but just require too much work, maybe on rot etc..
Averages ones are £5-10k, high mileage or needing bits here and there, corrosion etc..
Good examples are £10-12k.
Very good are £12-15k
Excellent/Restored are £15k+ but not above £20k.
You'll see people advertising them at more and dealers will get more but privately you won't be able to sell a bloody good one for more than £15k at most in my humble opinion. Most people with good cars will send up having to take around £10k ish.
This all seems about right, which makes the restored LSE that failed to reach its reserve and only hit just over £7k on eBay a month or so back even more bizarre!Rough ones, ones in need of work are £1-5k, 5k they need to be in good order but just require too much work, maybe on rot etc..
Averages ones are £5-10k, high mileage or needing bits here and there, corrosion etc..
Good examples are £10-12k.
Very good are £12-15k
Excellent/Restored are £15k+ but not above £20k.
You'll see people advertising them at more and dealers will get more but privately you won't be able to sell a bloody good one for more than £15k at most in my humble opinion. Most people with good cars will send up having to take around £10k ish.
Admittedly, maybe it had some major issue the seller didn't mention and that could only be seen in the flesh, but there were lots of pictures and it looked magnificent.
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