Defender - Range Rover - what actually is it??
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I'm looking round for a Land Rover, preferably defender or RRC with a V8 and manual gearbox and I found this.....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Landrover-Defender-V8-2...
It looks like a defender, but a bit of on-line digging shows it's a Range Rover. What's the implications of buying something which has been re-built to the level that it's a different car?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Landrover-Defender-V8-2...
It looks like a defender, but a bit of on-line digging shows it's a Range Rover. What's the implications of buying something which has been re-built to the level that it's a different car?
Last factory RRC was built in 1995.
According to DVLA NNX 970V is a Rover & was first registered in 1979. Range Rovers were often shown as 'Rover' by DVLA so that in itself it not unusual.
The thing you link to will from next year be MOT & Tax exempt.
Much the same as when Labour stopped the rolling 25 year tax exemption status & suddenly many later Defenders were appearing claiming to have been built prior to the 1973 cut off date. Which was utter b
ks. I wonder how many Series Land Rovers had their ID plates removed & stuck onto those. Some were reported to DVLA who couldn't have been less interested if they'd tried.
Good luck with describing it to an insurance company.
According to DVLA NNX 970V is a Rover & was first registered in 1979. Range Rovers were often shown as 'Rover' by DVLA so that in itself it not unusual.
The thing you link to will from next year be MOT & Tax exempt.
Much the same as when Labour stopped the rolling 25 year tax exemption status & suddenly many later Defenders were appearing claiming to have been built prior to the 1973 cut off date. Which was utter b
ks. I wonder how many Series Land Rovers had their ID plates removed & stuck onto those. Some were reported to DVLA who couldn't have been less interested if they'd tried.Good luck with describing it to an insurance company.
Edited by paintman on Monday 26th November 18:44
There is the possibility, although I think it is pretty remote, that if it is brought to the attention of the dvla they could in theory demand evidence of the origins of that vehicle which could mean it loosing it's identity and becoming a Q plate, which is what it should be really, meaning it would loose the mot and tax exemption
Ranger 6 said:
Cfnteabag said:
....losing it's identity and becoming a Q plate
Extreme I know, but yes, it's a situation like this which puts me off.Turn7 said:
RR Chassis would make it a 100 inch, will ride better than a 90 on the road and be near as dammit as good off road.
Loads of people used to build these, some with Series panels too.
Note that the ad says "2008 Rebuild Landrover Defender on rangerover ID and Axels." which leads me to believe that it's a defender with the id plates off an old Range Rover to make it tax & MOT exempt.The replacement chassis gets rid of the stamped chassis number.Loads of people used to build these, some with Series panels too.
paintman said:
Turn7 said:
RR Chassis would make it a 100 inch, will ride better than a 90 on the road and be near as dammit as good off road.
Loads of people used to build these, some with Series panels too.
Note that the ad says "2008 Rebuild Landrover Defender on rangerover ID and Axels." which leads me to believe that it's a defender with the id plates off an old Range Rover to make it tax & MOT exempt.The replacement chassis gets rid of the stamped chassis number.Loads of people used to build these, some with Series panels too.
paintman said:
Note that the ad says "2008 Rebuild Landrover Defender on rangerover ID and Axels." which leads me to believe that it's a defender with the id plates off an old Range Rover to make it tax & MOT exempt.The replacement chassis gets rid of the stamped chassis number.
It's a frankenstein, that's what it is; fraudulent tax band dodge at the moment, once it reaches 40 and tax-free status it's extrastupid fraud. If it ever gets inspected by the VOSA bottom inspectors they'll take a dim view of it. How you would unwind the registration and get it recorded legitimately I have no idea; as said above it probably belongs on a Q plate. Walk away, there are plenty of land rovers out there without dodgy records.Going back to looking for RRC, bear in mind that the last one was built in 1995.
Mechanically they are big boy's meccano & not overly complicated electrically.
The big issue is corrosion.
Whilst many of the visible external panels - excl top & bottom boot & bonnet - are Birmabright ALL the underpanels are steel. And not very well undersealed steel.
Later ones - IIRC post 1989ish - are worse.
So when you look at any either take someone with you that knows what they are looking at or take a good torch & have a thorough crawl around underneath. If possible lift the front carpets to check the footwell front & side & the boot flooring to check the boot floor although earlier ones have a large ally boot floor centre section.
Mechanically they are big boy's meccano & not overly complicated electrically.
The big issue is corrosion.
Whilst many of the visible external panels - excl top & bottom boot & bonnet - are Birmabright ALL the underpanels are steel. And not very well undersealed steel.
Later ones - IIRC post 1989ish - are worse.
So when you look at any either take someone with you that knows what they are looking at or take a good torch & have a thorough crawl around underneath. If possible lift the front carpets to check the footwell front & side & the boot flooring to check the boot floor although earlier ones have a large ally boot floor centre section.
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