DPF Amber warning!

DPF Amber warning!

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Granfondo

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12,241 posts

213 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Does this ever happen on your vehicles as my RRS MY16 has gone straight to red on 2 occasions in 4K miles?

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Give it a run out and force a dpf regen.

I'm guessing you're only doing relatively short journeys to the Granfondo Inc. corporate car park everyday ?

Motorway/dual cariageway run, high revs, hold it in 4th/5th/6th using the paddles somewhere between 60 and 70 for 15 -20 mins to do a dpf regen.


Granfondo

Original Poster:

12,241 posts

213 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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The question is does anyone get an amber warning to let you know before it goes to red when you can't go out and do the obvious?

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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So when it went red did it go into limp mode ? If so how did you get it out of limp mode ?

Have you had no orange lights previously ?

The 4K miles you refer to is that the car’s approximate lifetime mileage so far or just the span over which the two incidents occurred ?

Granfondo

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12,241 posts

213 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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RSK21 said:
So when it went red did it go into limp mode ? If so how did you get it out of limp mode ?

Have you had no orange lights previously ?

The 4K miles you refer to is that the car’s approximate lifetime mileage so far or just the span over which the two incidents occurred ?
Straight to red then back to dealership.

No orange.

Both.

custardkid

2,514 posts

231 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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it'll still have AA/JLR complimentary breakdown cover
give them a call and they will do a dpf regen on your drive

Granfondo

Original Poster:

12,241 posts

213 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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custardkid said:
it'll still have AA/JLR complimentary breakdown cover
give them a call and they will do a dpf regen on your drive
Had them out both times and it's a NO from them,and back to the dealer it goes!

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Granfondo said:
Straight to red then back to dealership.

No orange.

Both.

So you should get an orange light before red, this is the trigger to tell you to get a regen.

There’s a fault in the chain somewhere, either the sensor to trigger the orange light is bust causing it not to alert you to the need for a regen or it is showing a false red light warning triggering the limp mode.

I’m assuming JLR assist did a diagnostic and just reset the fault code to remove the red light ?

My guess is it is the first problem above, short journeys driving the need for a regen but the failsafe to tell you there’s a prob,em building in the dpf isn’t kicking in.

Granfondo

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12,241 posts

213 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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RSK21 said:

So you should get an orange light before red, this is the trigger to tell you to get a regen.

There’s a fault in the chain somewhere, either the sensor to trigger the orange light is bust causing it not to alert you to the need for a regen or it is showing a false red light warning triggering the limp mode.

I’m assuming JLR assist did a diagnostic and just reset the fault code to remove the red light ?

My guess is it is the first problem above, short journeys driving the need for a regen but the failsafe to tell you there’s a prob,em building in the dpf isn’t kicking in.
Car still at dealership but glad to hear there should be an amber warning before it goes into limp mode.

Granfondo

Original Poster:

12,241 posts

213 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Quick update before collecting car!

It needed a DPF regen but they could not answer my question as to why no Amber warning on 2 occasions in 4K miles.

Manual states that Amber warning should appear before Red allowing you to get the car to self regenerate.


anonymous-user

61 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Lazy of them

Sounds like diagnostics told them the dog was clogged but they couldn’t be bothered to check the sensors/warning light for you.

Poor form.

Granfondo

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12,241 posts

213 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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RSK21 said:
Lazy of them

Sounds like diagnostics told them the dog was clogged but they couldn’t
be bothered to check the sensors/warning light for you.

Poor form.
Spoke to the master Tech and he said that if the car does not get to full operating temp the flow sensors won't register and the Amber warning won't be triggered and will go straight to red.
The receptionist said they are having lots of problems with DPF and more so since Addblue!

RacerMike

4,410 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Granfondo said:
Quick update before collecting car!

It needed a DPF regen but they could not answer my question as to why no Amber warning on 2 occasions in 4K miles.

Manual states that Amber warning should appear before Red allowing you to get the car to self regenerate.
If it's anything like others, I suspect that it won't go to Amber until the next ignition cycle. So, if you drive with a close to needing regen DPF, and drive the thing hard/not on the motorway, it'll hold off the amber warning in the hope you'll go on the motorway. Problem is, if you don't, and you keep filling the DPF, it will go over the limit at which it can regen before it tells you....

MrC986

3,557 posts

198 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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Granfondo said:
RSK21 said:
Lazy of them

Sounds like diagnostics told them the dog was clogged but they couldn’t
be bothered to check the sensors/warning light for you.

Poor form.
Spoke to the master Tech and he said that if the car does not get to full operating temp the flow sensors won't register and the Amber warning won't be triggered and will go straight to red.
The receptionist said they are having lots of problems with DPF and more so since Addblue!
My friend who has a Disco 5 has a friend who has had problems with a '17 RRS which I think was similar to your reported issue - his car ended up being rejected as they couldn't get it right & a new one was provided as it became a catalogue of problems as his was either in the dealers being repaired or being recovered back to them.

gio6500

42 posts

173 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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Apologies for re raising an old topic but I’ve got a RRS 2016 which had the amber warning to it for a run and it seemed to have cleared but came back with a red warning with engine into limp mode etc. Should I take it for a further run and see if it will clear out or do I need to see a Indy to get it cleared manually?

sunbeam alpine

7,079 posts

195 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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gio6500 said:
Apologies for re raising an old topic but I’ve got a RRS 2016 which had the amber warning to it for a run and it seemed to have cleared but came back with a red warning with engine into limp mode etc. Should I take it for a further run and see if it will clear out or do I need to see a Indy to get it cleared manually?
Not a LR expert, but based on other threads on here - and other sites - I'd be looking to get it to a specialist ASAP. Other threads suggest that failed DPF regens lead to diesel being dumped into the engine oil which can cause much more serious damage.

Monkeylegend

27,207 posts

238 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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sunbeam alpine said:
gio6500 said:
Apologies for re raising an old topic but I’ve got a RRS 2016 which had the amber warning to it for a run and it seemed to have cleared but came back with a red warning with engine into limp mode etc. Should I take it for a further run and see if it will clear out or do I need to see a Indy to get it cleared manually?
Not a LR expert, but based on other threads on here - and other sites - I'd be looking to get it to a specialist ASAP. Other threads suggest that failed DPF regens lead to diesel being dumped into the engine oil which can cause much more serious damage.
Do not google " JLR oil dilution issues" if you want a good nights sleep.