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Thinking of spending about £4k on a Range Rover to use as an emergency second vehicle, tip runs, towing a trailer and playing off-road in a quarry.
Looking in the classifieds, that'll get me an early L322 or a late P38 but I'm trying to guess the better to buy?
I'm not bothered about the luxuries not working, just as long as it starts, goes and stops. I like the look of the L322's but gearbox probs concern me.
So good condition older -vs- Ropey condition newer?
Looking in the classifieds, that'll get me an early L322 or a late P38 but I'm trying to guess the better to buy?
I'm not bothered about the luxuries not working, just as long as it starts, goes and stops. I like the look of the L322's but gearbox probs concern me.
So good condition older -vs- Ropey condition newer?
DKL said:
Isn't it only the diesel gearbox that causes issues in the 322? £4 buys a lot of p38 but I haven't seen many 322 down there. I'd stick to a well looked after old one unless you're very handy with the spanners.
There's a couple available, one a Cat C/D which wouldn't bother me as I'll be ragging it anyway.I'm reasonably handy with spanners, the reason I want one is to use it to transport engines and stuff around from the Cerbera when it gets it's overhaul.
I'm on my 3rd P38 which is used as a spare/tip run - cant bring myself to sell it as it's too useful.
My buying guide and info on repairing the common problem is here:
http://www.mez.co.uk/p38.html
For either car you have to be prepared to do some spannering if you want to avoid massive bills.
I think a p38 would be less delicate, easier and cheaper to repair if you intend to off-road it.
L323 nicer for just smoking around in and occasional light off road.
My buying guide and info on repairing the common problem is here:
http://www.mez.co.uk/p38.html
For either car you have to be prepared to do some spannering if you want to avoid massive bills.
I think a p38 would be less delicate, easier and cheaper to repair if you intend to off-road it.
L323 nicer for just smoking around in and occasional light off road.
eliot said:
I'm on my 3rd P38 which is used as a spare/tip run - cant bring myself to sell it as it's too useful.
My buying guide and info on repairing the common problem is here:
http://www.mez.co.uk/p38.html
This guide kept mine on the road for way longer than it should have done. I bought a good 'un, too. Then had a procession of problems over 3 years that kept it off the road more often than on. Changing the O rings is a memory I'd rather forget.My buying guide and info on repairing the common problem is here:
http://www.mez.co.uk/p38.html
I think, at 20+ years old, they all have all of the issues and they re-occur if fixed.
But what a perfect workhorse, I loved mine, even with it's 1 million imperfections.
eliot said:
I'm on my 3rd P38 which is used as a spare/tip run - cant bring myself to sell it as it's too useful.
My buying guide and info on repairing the common problem is here:
http://www.mez.co.uk/p38.html
For either car you have to be prepared to do some spannering if you want to avoid massive bills.
I think a p38 would be less delicate, easier and cheaper to repair if you intend to off-road it.
L323 nicer for just smoking around in and occasional light off road.
Excellent guide, thanks.My buying guide and info on repairing the common problem is here:
http://www.mez.co.uk/p38.html
For either car you have to be prepared to do some spannering if you want to avoid massive bills.
I think a p38 would be less delicate, easier and cheaper to repair if you intend to off-road it.
L323 nicer for just smoking around in and occasional light off road.
eliot said:
I'm on my 3rd P38 which is used as a spare/tip run - cant bring myself to sell it as it's too useful.
My buying guide and info on repairing the common problem is here:
http://www.mez.co.uk/p38.html
For either car you have to be prepared to do some spannering if you want to avoid massive bills.
I think a p38 would be less delicate, easier and cheaper to repair if you intend to off-road it.
L323 nicer for just smoking around in and occasional light off road.
Bookmarked. I didn't think that I wanted a P38, but now I'm not so sure My buying guide and info on repairing the common problem is here:
http://www.mez.co.uk/p38.html
For either car you have to be prepared to do some spannering if you want to avoid massive bills.
I think a p38 would be less delicate, easier and cheaper to repair if you intend to off-road it.
L323 nicer for just smoking around in and occasional light off road.
I would say avoid the pre my2000 facelift ones - you can tell by looking at the inlet manifold, single square box is earlier gems system whereas a manifold that looks like a bunch of bananas is the facelift thor manifold with bosch engine management as used on the e39 5 series.
It changes and finds the right gear nicer and has more off-idle torque.
There's still going to be plenty of unloved dogs out there.
It changes and finds the right gear nicer and has more off-idle torque.
There's still going to be plenty of unloved dogs out there.
Byff said:
Thinking of spending about £4k on a Range Rover to use as an emergency second vehicle, tip runs, towing a trailer and playing off-road in a quarry.
Looking in the classifieds, that'll get me an early L322 or a late P38 but I'm trying to guess the better to buy?
I'm not bothered about the luxuries not working, just as long as it starts, goes and stops. I like the look of the L322's but gearbox probs concern me.
So good condition older -vs- Ropey condition newer?
If you just want something to tow and go to tip, it might be worth considering a different vehicle. An off Roader is useless if you cant start the car due to an electrical gremlin. Looking in the classifieds, that'll get me an early L322 or a late P38 but I'm trying to guess the better to buy?
I'm not bothered about the luxuries not working, just as long as it starts, goes and stops. I like the look of the L322's but gearbox probs concern me.
So good condition older -vs- Ropey condition newer?
However, if you insist on LR, then I would go P38 as you will be scraping the barrel of L322s at £4k. £4k should get you a very nice P38.
I've had my P38 for two years now - bought it from a guy who worked at a LR indy so it had been well looked after.
Mine is converted to springs and has had a turner block put in at some point. I paid £2.7 for it.
Has been totally reliable, parts are very cheap. Mine is a 99 Thor V8 which is quick enough for our roads.
I think parts are much pricier for the L322 but they are coming down to 4k with a haggle. They sold a lot of them and here in London people want rid of their V8s and are prepared to drop prices on vehicles with decent service records. All the garages I have spoken to said the L322 gearbox is a time bomb so either budget for this or find one where its been done.
Mine is converted to springs and has had a turner block put in at some point. I paid £2.7 for it.
Has been totally reliable, parts are very cheap. Mine is a 99 Thor V8 which is quick enough for our roads.
I think parts are much pricier for the L322 but they are coming down to 4k with a haggle. They sold a lot of them and here in London people want rid of their V8s and are prepared to drop prices on vehicles with decent service records. All the garages I have spoken to said the L322 gearbox is a time bomb so either budget for this or find one where its been done.
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