White smoke from RR classic

White smoke from RR classic

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CraigVmax

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12,248 posts

287 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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hi all,

mate bought by LSE off me, he's in country so I cant look at it but he's experienced a lack of acceleration and white smoke from exhaust.

head gasket you think?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

195 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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This all rather depends. I presume it's a 4.2 V8?

HG would mean coolant loss and likely mayo in the oil cap and contamination in the header tank. If it's none of these.....

Also if it's burning water then you'd get steam not smoke!

White smoke is often turbo bearing failure, but if it's a factory V8 then it won't be.

CraigVmax

Original Poster:

12,248 posts

287 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Yeah he's not with the car so I cant ask him to check those things annoyingly.

You're right its a 4.2 V8. He says billowing white smoke coupled with lack of power.

its only done 15 miles while like this so hopefully no damage done.

He only bought it just over 2 months ago so i hope its not expensive.

Thx for advice btw

Ledaig

1,713 posts

267 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Could be valve/valve guide failure resulting in the sucking in and burning of oil - hence the white smoke.

Can he get a compression test conducted?

CraigVmax

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12,248 posts

287 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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yep its going in to be looked at, hoping its not serious, he has had it for nearly 3 monmths but all the same, doesnt feel good.

pugwash4x4

7,555 posts

226 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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isn't oil smoke blue?

white smoke is steams usually, and more often than not is a complete head gasket failure in a RV8- could be even worse though- ie cracked block with a slipped liner.

Vixpy1

42,656 posts

269 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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I'm afraid to say that sounds like liner or headgasket

Ledaig

1,713 posts

267 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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pugwash4x4 said:
isn't oil smoke blue?

white smoke is steams usually, and more often than not is a complete head gasket failure in a RV8- could be even worse though- ie cracked block with a slipped liner.
If its a little getting mixed then yes, however if it's a lot getting nicely burned then it will be white. Check out some vids of racing cars giving up the ghost etc or drip some (not much wink ) on your manifold when hot.

Anyhow, the valve/valve guide option twas only a suggestion.

smile

DonkeyApple

57,691 posts

174 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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If it isn't steam and there is no water in the head then it would have to be a good amount of oil coming up via the valves or pistons.

Usually if it is the pistons then it's typically down to wear and tends to be that classic grey smoke when coming off load. Also, unless you wouldn't get a massive drop off in power.

If it is literally that classic heavy White smoke and it suddenly appeared along with a sudden loss of power but with no increase in noise from the engine then it sounds like a seal going in the head or something having dislodged rather than anything actually breaking and opening up a flow path from bottom to top.


tubster1275

36 posts

196 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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Bit of a wild stab.

What colour are the plugs? Could it be seriously overfuelling I have seen this happening when the intake air temperature sensor misreads causing the ECU to assume it's cold on Fords. On a RRC there is a coolant temperature sensor by the top hose on the engine that tells the ECU how cold the engine is. I've had a 3.9 V8 with do something very similar so it was running very rich read about 6% co on the gas tester at normall running temperature. Could be either be low coolant or a duff sensor. I swapped the sensor out topped up the coolant and changed the plugs and it was spot on after.

Cheers,

Mike