1968 cooper mk2. What wheels and tyres?

1968 cooper mk2. What wheels and tyres?

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squirejo

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Thursday 25th July 2013
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Hello

My 1968 Austin Cooper mk2 is completely factory standard with the exception of the Dunlop D1 alloys. I think, but am not sure, that they were a factory option but irrespective, I would like to put the car back on standard period correct wheels and tyres.

Several of the obvious Mini places sell replica wheels ( eg mini spares).

Can anyone guide me as to

1) what width I need for a standard cooper (3.5 or 4.5) assuming 10"
2) what tyres are correct from the period? I see several are still available from vintage and race tyre suppliers
3) if anyone knows of an outfit that can supply wheels, period correct tyres etc as a package? (Most I see are modern tyres)

Thanks a lot

Cooperman

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257 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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A 1968 Mini Cooper 998 would have been supplied with the same 3.5" x 10" steel wheels as fitted to the 850 of the same era.
AS for tyres, they would have been Dunlop 145/80 x 10, probably SP41.
Hub caps would have been full diameter chrome plated steel ones.
10" 850 wheels are fairly easy to find. Falken do a 145 x 10 tyre which would look right.

squirejo

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Thursday 25th July 2013
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Extremely good, thank you. Don't suppose you know somewhere that could restore steel wheels to,old English white? Temptation is to buy new, replicas given price but that would be cheating.

I had found these as someone fitted them to a restoration car fitted in one of the mini mags

http://www.vintagetyres.com/item/99/145sr10-dunlop...

Cooperman

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Friday 26th July 2013
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I will shortly have the same problem with restoration of a set of 3.5" x 10" 850/997/998 Mk.1 & 2 wheels.
I'm going to get then sand-blasted by a local company, then I'll spray them with a high-build primer and finish with O.E.White top coat.

android

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176 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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This is one occasion where originality isn't best (IMO). If you're running the factory 7" disks (bacon slicers) and spacered drums I'd at least put on some 4.5" reverse rims or stick with your D1's. With 165's on they track just right and look a whole lot more purposeful than the spindlely original rims and 145's. Not a big fan of the big hubcaps either,each to their own of course. You could paint the RR's grey to fall in line with Mk2 'S's.

Crosswise

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Wednesday 14th August 2013
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On a Mk2 the wheels should be silver. I can't imagine the wheel trims will be easy to find. I'll be putting S brakes and wheels on my 69 Cooper, as much as I like originality, I'd rather have better brakes and wheels.

Edited by Crosswise on Friday 6th September 01:25

squirejo

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Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Thank you crosswise. More work to do. Pfer to buy some original knack erred ones and find somewhere to blast/ spray than the repro easy route

DickyC

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Wednesday 4th September 2013
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Whereabouts are you? I have a set of steel reverse rims and the smaller hub caps. My bro bought them for his 69 S but he sold it with its Dunlop alloys and the steels, in primer, will have to go. I can't imagine how much they would be to post or courier, so the nearer you are to Newbury in Berkshire the better.

Cooperman

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257 months

Thursday 5th September 2013
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The OP wants the car to be 'as original', so he will need the 3.5" x 10" steel wheels with the 7" disc brakes and large hub-caps. If not he might as well stick with the Dunlop D1's which although not original are 'period modifications'.

DickyC

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Friday 6th September 2013
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Ah, yes, of course. Got it. There's loads of stuff in my garage from my bro's car that is original and needs a good home. A pair of unused hydrolastic pipes for instance. I can't find any for sale to help me fix a price.

eBay here we come.

squirejo

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Friday 6th September 2013
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Thanks for thinking of me. Still not done anything about this, keep looking on the bay....

DickyC

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Friday 6th September 2013
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Off topic, my brother emailed today to say the dealer who bought his S for £10,000 at Bonhams in April have just sold it in "Ripe for Restoration" condition for £14,000. He bought it in 1975 for a few hundred and ran it as his every day car for several years after which it was just used for best. It was still pretty original except from the wheels and Special Tuning seats.

We stopped in Kingston on the way to Bonhams at Hendon Museum to take a picture or two. He let me drive it and he was driving his wife's modern Mini Cooper. The old car was quicker away from the lights. We tried it several times smile



Good luck with your restoration.

squirejo

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Sunday 8th September 2013
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Now, what are the tyres on those D1 alloys? It's not so much that I dislike the wheels, but they are fitted with some modern tyres and the combo looks out of place. I'll save the performance rubber for some other more sporting vehicles and happily replace with some suitable historic remakes.

DickyC

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Sunday 8th September 2013
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They are whatever Groundhogs are called these days. I'll check.

Well, according to the Dunlop site they're now, and I quote, "145SR10 DUNLOP AQUAJET SP SPORT: CAR TYRE: ROAD: TL"

I'll ask my bro tomorrow if he remembers.

Apologies for calling your Min a restoration. When I read it again you're simply seeking a bit more originality. I tend to think of my cars when they're fifteen years old and older as on-going restorations.

DickyC

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Monday 9th September 2013
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Dunlop Aquajets is what they're called, according to big bro.

He bought them in Beaulieu.

squirejo

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Monday 9th September 2013
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Thanks a lot. Car sailed through the mot today and good job too as was cutting it a bit fine for Goodwood revival. Think I thought I was on the circuit this morning as I whizzed up Park Lane this morning. Amazing how you can keep up with the flow of modern traffic and more. Rather enjoyed it!

An eBay purchased Brixton wicker picnic set will add to the period cliche!

squirejo

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Monday 9th September 2013
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squirejo

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Monday 9th September 2013
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Turned out it just needed a talking to and a bit of dirty fuel to work thru.....

London to Brighton

DickyC

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Tuesday 10th September 2013
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A stern talking to.

hehe

Marvellous.

The car looks spot on, sj.

IN51GHT

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217 months

Tuesday 10th September 2013
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Reverse splits are the way forwards on old Coopers