Rear disc conversions

Rear disc conversions

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boredpilot

Original Poster:

478 posts

245 months

Saturday 10th July 2004
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Hi mini fans, I have a couple of MG midgets which im turbo charging, im wondering if any of you guys have fitted rear discs to your minis and what type of calipers you used, afraid on the MG side there is very little info as to what we could use and the two companys ive found that will do a conversion kit charge close to £500 inc vat which is a little steep in my eyes

Thanks for the help

Fatboy

8,089 posts

279 months

Saturday 10th July 2004
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As your midget is rear-drive, best Guess would be to find something with rear disks you can just do an axle swap with?

boredpilot

Original Poster:

478 posts

245 months

Saturday 10th July 2004
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Trying to avoid that route as I would have a fair bit more work to do, start shortening diff to fit the small witdth, (Hope converting the halfshafts to allow my wires)etc,

Where as I can easily make 2 plates to fit a caliper to.

But thanks for the suggestion, keep them comming

Cooperman

4,428 posts

257 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Never worth fitting discs to the rear of a Mini as the fronts do the vast majority of the braking. On some of the racing Minis the rears were blanked off and not used at all, whilst on the rally cars the only use for the rears is for left-foot braking to set the car up sideways on gravel, or for handbrake turning.
I don't know anyone who has fitted discs to the rear. I suspect if you did it could make for a loss of braking stability as if too much pressure was fed to the back the car it would tend to lock-up the rears, whilst if an acceptable pressure were selected, the discs would not get warm enough, especially in the wet, and could 'grab' somewhat. I'm only guessing there though.
With a Midget or Sprite, the rears do much more work. Why not give Brown & Gammons a call in Baldock to see if they can help.
Alternatively, the earlier suggestion that you look at some current small cars to see what they use. For example, what does the MG ZR 1.4 use?

plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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KAD make a Mini specific kit.

£300 or so.

Simple to fit, look lovely too.

As Peter says, they dont improve normal braking that much but add a level of comfort (if you will) under severe stopping...

boredpilot

Original Poster:

478 posts

245 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Thanks ill have a look

annodomini2

6,913 posts

258 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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thought the kad kit wasn't road legal, no mechanical handbrake?

plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Nope, perfectly road legal, mechanical handbrake all present and correct.

Cooperman

4,428 posts

257 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Well, I didn't know anything about the KAD kit.
I can't se you would gain much as it's the front brakes that give the problems with fade that I sometimes get.
Now that I've discovered carbon-metallic pads I don't have fade or high wear-rate problems. However, I don't think there are any carbon-metallic pads available for cars with the 8.4" discs rather than the 7.5" Cooper 'S' ones, unless anyone knows better?

plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Like I say it just feels more settled under severe stoppage.

Not sure about the carbon metallic for 8.4 fitment.

I'll have a poke...

plotloss

67,280 posts

277 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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You can get carbon metallic for the 4 pot iron metro fitment.

You can also get Kevlar EBC pads for the Mini 8.4"

There is also something about Mintex making carbon metallic for 8.4" Mini but I cant find much...

jeffriesmullet

134 posts

249 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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it is very unstable 2 fit rear discs to a car that was made without and the pressures are all wrong a mate of mine had um fitted 2 a 106 and was crusing along the motorway some1 cut him up he applied the brakes and the back instantly skipped out as a result he nearly died after the car ended up in a crah barrier

Fatboy

8,089 posts

279 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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jeffriesmullet said:
it is very unstable 2 fit rear discs to a car that was made without and the pressures are all wrong a mate of mine had um fitted 2 a 106 and was crusing along the motorway some1 cut him up he applied the brakes and the back instantly skipped out as a result he nearly died after the car ended up in a crah barrier

TBH mate, sounds like he had his brake balance set up wrong - after he switch to rear disks he should have set the bias to be more towards the front to account for the greater efficiency of disks over the original drums, i.e. the rear disks were applying too much pressure, hence they locked up - a simple brake bias adjustment would have prevented this.

Nevertheless, your mate's is a very serious example of why you should be very careful when messing about with the brakes...

jeffriesmullet

134 posts

249 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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it was set up by a local pug performance specialst so i sint gona touch discs with a 10ft barge poll

Cooperman1

116 posts

250 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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plotloss said:
You can get carbon metallic for the 4 pot iron metro fitment.

You can also get Kevlar EBC pads for the Mini 8.4"

There is also something about Mintex making carbon metallic for 8.4" Mini but I cant find much...


Maybe I'll call Mintex Tech Support Dept for some advice.
I don't think EBC would be up to the job as I can fade Mintex 1155's, which are up-spec from EBC, quite easily on tarmac tests/stages and their 'bite' when cold is not good either - so they give the worst of both worlds! Some people reckon they're great, but they don't work for me. The regs only allow standard calipers and discs, but pad material and fluid (AP600 is what I use) are free.
Thanks for that.

Peter