New Griff

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tess

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1 posts

271 months

Sunday 21st April 2002
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Just bought a Griff 500. Any tips on the best way to approach driving it and remaining alive. Awesome power!!

RobM

392 posts

291 months

Sunday 21st April 2002
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be carefull in the wet, be carfull in the wet, and watch out for it in the wet. Oh, and have fun

ToroTVR

73 posts

289 months

Sunday 21st April 2002
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Let me drive it for you
TVR Owner Eventually!

powelly

490 posts

289 months

Sunday 21st April 2002
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Tess, welcome to a wonderful world! Had mine for 4 months now, first track day at Brands Hatch last Friday..

Other than 'WATCH IT IN THE WET', the points I have learnt in the past few weeks:

1. Let it warm up, inc. tyres and suspension before giving it some.
2. The throttle is no longer a switch, and hitting the floor in a corner will ensure you get out of shape or even spin.
3. Hold on tight and scream if you want to go faster!!!

Craig
Griff 500

beano1197

20,854 posts

282 months

Sunday 21st April 2002
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Plus

Slow in; fast out.

Don't bother trying to race everyone on the road - you can beat them all (apart form Cerbies) anyway!

Enjoy!!

EdT

5,132 posts

291 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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just shut your eyes & stick your foot down. Or is it the other way around..

Ed

gerjo

1,627 posts

289 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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plus: be careful with down shifting

ideally use heel and toe, or otherwise don't ever do it in a corner and don't do it at high revs; the high torque will make the back step out

apart from this and driving in the wet: fantastic grip!

Driller

8,310 posts

285 months

Wednesday 24th April 2002
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just shut your eyes & stick your foot down. Or is it the other way around..


What, shut your feet and stick your eyes down?

>> Edited by Driller on Wednesday 24th April 07:55

REV-EREND

21,536 posts

291 months

Wednesday 24th April 2002
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If you think you have gone into a corner too fast - dont panic, definately dont brake - just steer as normal. The car will go around fine.

Rev

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Wednesday 24th April 2002
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Just bought a Griff 500. Any tips on the best way to approach driving it and remaining alive. Awesome power!!


Get some instruction. Plenty of potential courses on PH to choose from. Learn how to heel and toe. Don't engine brake. Learn to do things smoothly and don't get tempted to push it too far as when these things break away, it happens very very evry quickly.

Take it careful as TVRs have the highest single vehicle accident stats in the UK (allegedly).

Steve

powelly

490 posts

289 months

Wednesday 24th April 2002
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Steve... I sort of understand the principle around heel/toe but wouldn't mind a sanity check. Is there anything written anywhere on the subject?

Also, realised at Brands my pedals weren't setup to allow this anyway... will sort that this weekend...

Craig

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Wednesday 24th April 2002
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Simply put it is a technique that allows you to press all three pedals at once despite a genetic restriction of only having two feet. Any Jake the Pegs do not have to learn this technique...

The idea is that while braking you simultaneously blip the throttle to raise the engine revs so that when the clutch is let out the engine revs match the required speed for the road speed. If there is a big mismatch the engine acts like a big brake so that when the clutch is let out, the rear wheels become a big brake, lock up, spin the car and bang goes your no claim.

Advanced techniques include rolling onto the throttle as you come off the brake so that there is a smooth transistion between the two. Couple this with braking while turning in (usually taught as a definite no-no) to deliberately make the back end unstable and turn in the car when the normal laws of physics say no and you have trail braking. Which means the whole procedure braking, turning in and accelerating become a smooth and faster process. Downside is that it is very easy to get this wrong and end up all embarrassed as it requires very fine control to prevent a slightly unstable rear end from quickly becoming an uncontrollable one. Frequently referred to as a Pampers moment. Why do think we race drivers wear romper suits?

Pedals need to be set up to make it easier and some people use the ball of their foot on the brake and the side to control the throttle but I sometimes use the heel and the ball to control the throttle depending on the car. Requires a lot of practice though but is essential if you don't want a Pampers moment.

Steve
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