5th gear saxo report?

5th gear saxo report?

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nmlowe

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1,666 posts

273 months

Friday 19th April 2002
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Did anyone see this weeks 5th gear?
What mad disease would make a young lad spend £30k on modifications for a citroen saxo?
Thats the best part of ten grand more than a brand new lotus elise!. Looking through Top marques magazine, a 1995 (N)TVR Griffith 500 only costs between £13k and £16k!!!
His excuse was that he wanted something different, to stand out from everyone else.
I'm only 21 myself (and....ashamed to admit that I used to occasionaly buy a copy of max power), but given the choice between a cr@ppy Saxo VTR/VTS and a TVR (plus £15k in change) I know which one I would feel most confident pulling in. Insurance may be a bit of an issue, but they're hardly strapped for cash if they can waste that kind of money on a nasty paint job and a couple of subwoofers.
What sort of resale value would they expect on their cars anyway?. those bodykits look awful. Kind of reminds you of those people who would bodge an escort cossie whale tail onto a Mk2 Astra 5dr (usually skew-wiff) and paint it purple just to stand out from the crowd. I can't help thinking that they stood out for the wrong reasons though!.

pbirkett

18,344 posts

278 months

Friday 19th April 2002
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Totally agree with you mate, it totally sad! I'm gonna modify my car, but shock horror, I aint gonna spend close to £30k. I might spend £2 or £3k tops, and that includes suspension, brakes, engine tuning, and ICE. It simply isnt worth spending more than that.

As you say, £30k would mean a brand new Elise and £8k in change, and I certainly know what I'd rather have! He wants to have something different, so he buys the most popular hot shopping trolley in the country - WTF???

nigelbasson

533 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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I saw a similar thing on "Driven" a couple of weeks ago when they did the driving school thing. They asked the boy-racer "Are you famous in Swansea.......then why do you have blacked out windows?" He didn't know what to say.

On the original point, does he really think that spending £30k on a tarted up Saxo makes him more sexually appealing to the ladies or more popular with his mates? I agree that rolling up in a TVR, Lotus, shopping cart, wheelbarrow, would be more impressive!!

raceboy

13,250 posts

286 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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And when he said he wanted something 'different' did he not notice that his car looked very similar to all the other tarted up saxos in the article, I don't think the bodykit company is only going to sell one set of plastic bumpers?

Scottster

627 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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I was having Sunday afternoon lunch with the bird yesterday, basking in the sunshine and looking fondly over my 993 parked nearby, when a black Saxo roared (as best a Saxo can of course) into the carpark acreaching to a halt on his 19" rims (with very very weedy looking brakes behind). I noted his quite manly 'quad' exhausts hanging (literally) out the back.

He had a Clifford alarm with the engine turney offy thing so got out, strolled away and the car engine halted and the car locked, windows did up etc with him no-where near.

I smiled and was dying to ask him what possessed him to spend that much money on such a piece of st?

Maybe I'm turning into a snob, just getting old (being only 27 I hope not) or just getting better taste. I have to admit to having owned many copies of MP and even had a friend who had two cover cars but..... O dear they just don't do it for me anymore.

You will pull birds in them yes, but mostly 16 years olds who just want to be seen in any car and the best they're going to get is that Saxo!! (Still, a 16 year old in the bush is worth two on the hand or whatever they say )

nmlowe

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1,666 posts

273 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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I know what you mean about feeling old, I actually used to look up to people who modified Nova's and Saxo's etc (when I was at school). It only actually hit home when I was at work and a couple of the younger lads (16-17ish) were crowded around a copy of max power looking at a tarted up Honda Civic 1.4 in bright yellow.
Whilst walking through town today, a young lad came past in an E-Reg VW golf with the most horrific excuse for an exhaust. There were three girls (a bit on the ugly side too!) on the opposite side of the road and he accelerated in response to seeing them. What a prat.
totally sad.

ultra violent

2,827 posts

275 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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I’ve decided to sell my 911 Turbo and buy a Saxo. Don't know about you lot but a couple of 16 (or is 17 now-a-days ) year olds in the bush sounds quite appealing

nmlowe

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1,666 posts

273 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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I’ve decided to sell my 911 Turbo and buy a Saxo. Don't know about you lot but a couple of 16 (or is 17 now-a-days ) year olds in the bush sounds quite appealing




Good plan!
But what about cars like the Renault Clio V6?
It's a ready made overpriced shitmobile! no need to buy extra bits from Demon Tweeks any more.

domster

8,431 posts

276 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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Yeah, that V6 Clio has no room for the subs though...

Scottster and I grew out of this modding thing when we could afford proper sports cars. Ask him about the Tasmanian Devil sticker he had on the back of his Cossie and he's guaranteed to blush... like I will for admitting I once painted my Metro aerial in red and white stripes for some insane lack of reason.

Ha ha. No wonder I ended up with a Lotus Carlton.

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

282 months

Monday 22nd April 2002
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A red and white striped aerial...barberous

nmlowe

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1,666 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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Metro?...barberous

>> Edited by nmlowe on Tuesday 23 April 13:35

tvradict

3,829 posts

280 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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I personally can't see the point in sticking expensive bodykits on shit heaps!

I ribbed benno for sticking a GT3 on his porker, but thats the kind of car that can pull off the modded look! For the simple reason that it doesn't look modified!

I see loads of, as they are quaintly known here in scotland, NEDS driving around in 1.1, 1.2 novas, clios and micras looking soooo stupid it's unreal!

Me and a mate went to pick up a couple of friends from the local night club a couple of saturdays ago! There were more tarts and bits of stuff standing around my Standard Orion, with ot's 2 hub caps (CID look on one side) and a bent ariel than around the nedmobiles!!!

I can be pootling down the A78 towards Irvine (Dual Carriadgeway, good visibility, quite a good road for the occasional quick run!) and a Ned will come up alongside with his base box banging and his big exhaust and his 1.2 badge on the back, give me the finger and try to blow me away! They normally give up when I'm soo far in front they can't see me any more!!!
This makes them look stupid infront of their friends and other drivers! And in trying to redeem themselves they seriously injure or even kill themselves!!

I can live with mods on cars that don't look stupid! Quad lights on a Saxo, MK5 Escort etc! Side Skirts and alloys that don't look ridiculous!! But why modify the Body, put on a massive exhaust and leave the engine standard! Spending £500 on a fast road cam and better air flow would give some power inprovement!
But the the brakes need uprated.....

It's been said before, if your going to spend upwards of £10 - £15K, sell the poxy car and buy a TVR, Lotus, etc! But for £3-£5K, decent power and stopping can be achieved without too muych hassle! Spending anymore is just stupid!!!

steve harrison

461 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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I personally can't see the point in sticking expensive bodykits on shit heaps!




So true, I've said it before and I'll say it again, take a pile of s**t worth 50p, spend ten grand on it and what have you got? A pile of s**t worth 50p

On the upside, it's not our money and look at the endless amusement it generates for all of us blessed with good taste. Makes my day when the beanie Nova drives past with some new, even more tacky accessory. You look at it and say "oh, for f**k's sake" to yourself.

Reminds me, nonegreen, remember Mike with the Allegro? Plastic wheel trims to look like alloys, body kit, spoilers, go-fast stripes in lime green over white, anti-static strips, chrome exhaust, spotlights, fur covered interior if I remember correctly. Has to be the ultimate heap of s**t.

nmlowe

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1,666 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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I was following a J-reg Ford Escort home a week ago. It had a full RS Cosworth bodykit on, and all the badges, real cossie wheels, nice cossie blue respray etc. The lad driving it only looked about 17, and the oval exhaust was missing (just a standard big bore roundy thing), and drum brakes on the back so it was plainly obvious that it wasn't a real one anyway dispite his efforts.
He was either driving very slowly for safety reasons or his car was only a 1.3? I wonder which it could be??

raceboy

13,250 posts

286 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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In this weeks Midland Auto Trader is a nice(?) looking Escort Cosie in white, standard looking, oh but its a look alike, and which model is it based on, RS2000 maybe, oh no 1.8 Turbo Diesal - MUPPET.

nmlowe

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1,666 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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MMM.. I bet that Escort TD sounds authentic!
Maybe he thought that if he couldn't afford a real one, he would choose a lesser model but without sacrificing the turbo?

raceboy

13,250 posts

286 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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I bet it got a dump valve fitted
Chug Chug Whooosh Chug Rattle

Paceracing

729 posts

272 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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The ultimate piece of sh1t has to be the Escort RS Turbo VAN!
You have to ask yourself why someone would take a crappy old van and throw a sh1tload of money at making it go faster?
I can understand the 17 year old who can't afford the insurance for a pukka RS and so converts his 1.1L Escort, but what the hell is that van thing all about? I've only ever seen a couple of these twatmobiles and both times I nearly pi55ed myself laughing!

Jas.

nmlowe

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1,666 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2002
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It isn't actually possible to buy a dump valve that fits a turbo diesel.
Not exactly sure of the technical reasons why myself.

I know what you mean though,
Back in the days when I used to take notice in bodykitted sheds, you used to be able to by a device which fitted inside the exhaust tailpipe of any car, and it sounded like you had a turbo and dump valve.
Rather nasty, kind of like buying fake disk brakes.

The van thing is interesting too, People used to do it to vans so they could get big speakers in the back.
I think they thought it was cool in a kind of 'Surf Dude' way, which it wasn't.
There's a lad at Uni who drives an E-reg Astra estate (3dr) rusty as hell in several shades of red, he has a ferrari sun-strip across the top of the windscreen too???



>> Edited by nmlowe on Tuesday 23 April 22:59

ToroTVR

73 posts

288 months

Wednesday 24th April 2002
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I agree entirely with the comments made about these sad b******s in Novas, Saxos, Clios etc, who seem to think that by spending a few quid in Halfords they can take on the world. Fit a jet engine to a dog turd, it becomes a quick dog turd!!! As said before, they only wear a baseball hat to cover the frontal labotomy scars! As for £30k on a f*****g Saxo! Talk about "One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest???" We all know that a PROPER car has a minimum of 6 (preferably 8!!!) cylinders, a maximum of 2 seats and drives the rear wheels ( and requires absolutely NO Halfords embellishments to make it "appear faster" ). As for the latest craze with ROVER 200s
.....WELL that is another story!!!!!!!!!
Yours,
A PROPER Car Enthusiast.