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Right here goes.
1st slight problem i've had in 32 days of ownership and 1 day outta its 30 day warranty
,but is probably something very simple and im off to have a play in a minute.
The prob is at first i noticed the green indicator led flashing occasionaly,then tonite as i pulled up in front of me garage i noticed the right front light flickering,then when i got out to inspect found the side indicator light was dully light.
Followed by when the cooling fan came on thought id check to see if both where on and no only the right(yes and horn workin)"UP FOR GASP OF AIR" and this fan that did come on did so at 70 deg on the gauge
I've realised the Griffith is partially to popping a few Cooling Fan Fuses so will investigate here first.
But to me this sound like a possible bad earth/short circuit.
Am i right in this assumption.
Well of to investigate my dear watson.
Simon
1st slight problem i've had in 32 days of ownership and 1 day outta its 30 day warranty
,but is probably something very simple and im off to have a play in a minute. The prob is at first i noticed the green indicator led flashing occasionaly,then tonite as i pulled up in front of me garage i noticed the right front light flickering,then when i got out to inspect found the side indicator light was dully light.
Followed by when the cooling fan came on thought id check to see if both where on and no only the right(yes and horn workin)"UP FOR GASP OF AIR" and this fan that did come on did so at 70 deg on the gauge
I've realised the Griffith is partially to popping a few Cooling Fan Fuses so will investigate here first.
But to me this sound like a possible bad earth/short circuit.
Am i right in this assumption.
Well of to investigate my dear watson.
Simon
Well i found out what was causing only on fan to come on my first experience of getting to the fuses(which were all OK).
I shorted out the temp sensor so the fans were on all the time(well one at first)then after seeing a few flashes sparks from near the fans found it to be a faulty/corroded connection so that has been sorted.
Still got the flashing green light/indicator on dimly/driving light flickering and think this will be a dash off/investigate light connections on next bank holiday. Ill keep u posted
Simon
I shorted out the temp sensor so the fans were on all the time(well one at first)then after seeing a few flashes sparks from near the fans found it to be a faulty/corroded connection so that has been sorted.
Still got the flashing green light/indicator on dimly/driving light flickering and think this will be a dash off/investigate light connections on next bank holiday. Ill keep u posted
Simon
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Still got the flashing green light/indicator on dimly/driving light flickering and think this will be a dash off/investigate light connections on next bank holiday. Ill keep u posted
Look at the earthing point at the front of the car near the rack first. The front lights etc are earthed there and if this is dodgy, the earth path runs through the indicators on one side and the voltage difference causes the green LED to come on.
A lot easier to check out than removing the dash.
Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk
Well thought id found the problem.checked the main earth like steve suggested and this looks to be ok,but thought id look at the connections on the front light and found one that wasn't in the spade connector properly and pushed it in(oohh) and fired the old girl up and didnt seem to be any probs.
Well after a hot drive over town to pick a friend up for a football game stopped at a meeting place with the rest of the team and yes u guested it wouldnt bloody start so had to sit there for 20 mins for something to cool down(seen this prob in another thread but cant remember where),was i the laughing stock or what 19k, for a car thats made for the summer and wont start when it gets to hot sort of jibes.
Anyhow on the way home just a while ago when it got dark switch lights on and all is well for a while and then they bloody start flickering again and the green indicator led to.
Stop at home, get out to open the garage and the bloody horn goes off followed by the fans starting.
FOR #ucks sake.
Sure this is an earthing fault but have checked the main earthing points,unless its a dodgy relay.
Oh well back in the garage 2morrow to investigate more,
but where i'll start i dont know.
At least it was a good hot day for the hood down even when not moving.
Simon
Well after a hot drive over town to pick a friend up for a football game stopped at a meeting place with the rest of the team and yes u guested it wouldnt bloody start so had to sit there for 20 mins for something to cool down(seen this prob in another thread but cant remember where),was i the laughing stock or what 19k, for a car thats made for the summer and wont start when it gets to hot sort of jibes.
Anyhow on the way home just a while ago when it got dark switch lights on and all is well for a while and then they bloody start flickering again and the green indicator led to.
Stop at home, get out to open the garage and the bloody horn goes off followed by the fans starting.
FOR #ucks sake.
Sure this is an earthing fault but have checked the main earthing points,unless its a dodgy relay.
Oh well back in the garage 2morrow to investigate more,
but where i'll start i dont know.
At least it was a good hot day for the hood down even when not moving.
Simon
Well i think i've come to the end of my tether(sp/).
Took the transmission tunnel of today to check the earthing points under ther and they where as good as new.
So then decided to take the dash of to change the fuel guage that was thought to be faulty but wasn't as the same prob occured when driving of after a min it went down to empty,but was pleased the i got the dash of with no problems and boy was it dusty behind there.
So ive come to the conclusion that theres a wiring fault between the horn(when fans come on)or one of the relays here,or is it because the fans draw so much load when starting up this somehow sounds the horn
But my real conclusion is the must be a bad earth somewhere to interefere with so many different parts of the circuit but have looked at the most obvious and looked at as many other wires as possible.
So i think im gonna have to call the experts in on this one.
Simon
Took the transmission tunnel of today to check the earthing points under ther and they where as good as new.
So then decided to take the dash of to change the fuel guage that was thought to be faulty but wasn't as the same prob occured when driving of after a min it went down to empty,but was pleased the i got the dash of with no problems and boy was it dusty behind there.
So ive come to the conclusion that theres a wiring fault between the horn(when fans come on)or one of the relays here,or is it because the fans draw so much load when starting up this somehow sounds the horn
But my real conclusion is the must be a bad earth somewhere to interefere with so many different parts of the circuit but have looked at the most obvious and looked at as many other wires as possible.
So i think im gonna have to call the experts in on this one.
Simon
I also have had this problem but cured it yesterday. It is an earthing problem and waht happens is the current for the front lights and other bits doesn't get a clean connection to the earth and goes via the indicators. This causes a voltage to be generated across the bulbs which is enough to cause the LED indicator to glow.
There is a third earth connection from the engine to the chassis on the drivers side on one of the tubes in front of the driver's footwell. Mine was pretty bad and corroded and I cleaned this up. Didn't solve the problem but it all helps.
The main earth connections for the front lights are in the loom and there is a set of connectors hidden in the passenger side wing. These can be accessed by pulling the loom through from the battery side or by removing the motor plate inside the wheel arch. Swine of a job by all accounts.
I solved the problem by running a seperate earth wire directly onto the front indicator earths and main beam earths. Tried it first with a couple of crock clips and long peice of wire and hey presto, the LED went out. Spliced the new earths into the cables, checking that they were connected to the earth (generally black wires but check otherwiseyou risk shorting out the electrics!). Used one of the bolts that hold the expansion tank to the chassis for the earth connection using a ring connector.
Problem solved. Well it was for me.
Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk
There is a third earth connection from the engine to the chassis on the drivers side on one of the tubes in front of the driver's footwell. Mine was pretty bad and corroded and I cleaned this up. Didn't solve the problem but it all helps.
The main earth connections for the front lights are in the loom and there is a set of connectors hidden in the passenger side wing. These can be accessed by pulling the loom through from the battery side or by removing the motor plate inside the wheel arch. Swine of a job by all accounts.
I solved the problem by running a seperate earth wire directly onto the front indicator earths and main beam earths. Tried it first with a couple of crock clips and long peice of wire and hey presto, the LED went out. Spliced the new earths into the cables, checking that they were connected to the earth (generally black wires but check otherwiseyou risk shorting out the electrics!). Used one of the bolts that hold the expansion tank to the chassis for the earth connection using a ring connector.
Problem solved. Well it was for me.
Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk
I also have had this problem but cured it yesterday. It is an earthing problem and waht happens is the current for the front lights and other bits doesn't get a clean connection to the earth and goes via the indicators. This causes a voltage to be generated across the bulbs which is enough to cause the LED indicator to glow.
There is a third earth connection from the engine to the chassis on the drivers side on one of the tubes in front of the driver's footwell. Mine was pretty bad and corroded and I cleaned this up. Didn't solve the problem but it all helps.
The main earth connections for the front lights are in the loom and there is a set of connectors hidden in the passenger side wing. These can be accessed by pulling the loom through from the battery side or by removing the motor plate inside the wheel arch. Swine of a job by all accounts.
I solved the problem by running a seperate earth wire directly onto the front indicator earths and main beam earths. Tried it first with a couple of crock clips and long peice of wire and hey presto, the LED went out. Spliced the new earths into the cables, checking that they were connected to the earth (generally black wires but check otherwiseyou risk shorting out the electrics!). Used one of the bolts that hold the expansion tank to the chassis for the earth connection using a ring connector.
Problem solved. Well it was for me.
Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk
There is a third earth connection from the engine to the chassis on the drivers side on one of the tubes in front of the driver's footwell. Mine was pretty bad and corroded and I cleaned this up. Didn't solve the problem but it all helps.
The main earth connections for the front lights are in the loom and there is a set of connectors hidden in the passenger side wing. These can be accessed by pulling the loom through from the battery side or by removing the motor plate inside the wheel arch. Swine of a job by all accounts.
I solved the problem by running a seperate earth wire directly onto the front indicator earths and main beam earths. Tried it first with a couple of crock clips and long peice of wire and hey presto, the LED went out. Spliced the new earths into the cables, checking that they were connected to the earth (generally black wires but check otherwiseyou risk shorting out the electrics!). Used one of the bolts that hold the expansion tank to the chassis for the earth connection using a ring connector.
Problem solved. Well it was for me.
Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk
Cheers for this info steve glad u had some luck or patience.
Some one has allready run a seperate earth to where you said,to the expansion tank but this dissappears under the rad and then into a loom.(alarm?)
I did think about running a seperate earth like you said and may be worth doing before i start swapping relays/call experts in.
I read in The Bible on how to check the resitance and may also give this aquick go as one might be faulty and not making a complete contact internally,but i suppose it will be easier to replace/swap and see what happens.
Funky, if thats true i might be giving doug a ring but as i will be keeping the beastie banana i like to try and find these thing for myself as it helps to gain knowledge of the car and its characteristics.
Simon
Just remembered i checked all light conections/side indicators but not on the front indi's
oh well 2morrows another day.
Time 4 a
>> Edited by sipow on Monday 1st April 22:45
Some one has allready run a seperate earth to where you said,to the expansion tank but this dissappears under the rad and then into a loom.(alarm?)
I did think about running a seperate earth like you said and may be worth doing before i start swapping relays/call experts in.
I read in The Bible on how to check the resitance and may also give this aquick go as one might be faulty and not making a complete contact internally,but i suppose it will be easier to replace/swap and see what happens.
Funky, if thats true i might be giving doug a ring but as i will be keeping the beastie banana i like to try and find these thing for myself as it helps to gain knowledge of the car and its characteristics.
Simon
Just remembered i checked all light conections/side indicators but not on the front indi's
oh well 2morrows another day.
Time 4 a
>> Edited by sipow on Monday 1st April 22:45
Well the problem has finally been solved.
Was checking where an earth that had been put on the chassis at the expansion tank went,and while following came across a well hidden bolt(that was lose)behind the radiator(bottom)on the drivers side that holds the body to the front of the chassis.(in the lip under the nose)
This had numerous earths attached to it.
After finding this, next how to tighten the bloody thing up.The radiator had a little lip but this was not enough to get a socket on(17mm)so it was either rad of or cut a hole/slot in the lip under the radiator,I choose the later so i could get an open ended spanner through and get enought to tighten the bolt up.
Steve, dont know if you know but the threaded part for the bolt that holds the expansion tank is only loctited
into the chassis tube.as i found out when checking the tightness of the bolt and found it spinning(thought i had crossed threaded it)but after further investigation found the threaded part was spinning.
Any how started the old girl up and went for a spin.
Fuel gauge went up and stayed up,green led didnt flicker,lights didnt flicker,indicator never came on,when fans came on none of the above happened. So problem solved and prehaps another earthing point found for future reference.
Cheers for your help steve and i hope some of this info is of some help to you.
Simon
# Ps steve i think i got your two earting points confused i first checked the one you suggested second
>> Edited by sipow on Tuesday 2nd April 20:57
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