How many 4.3BV's? Not!

How many 4.3BV's? Not!

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icamm

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2,153 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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Just been browsing auto trader on line as I am starting to think about replacing my shopping trolley. Sop I decided to have a quick look to see how the 4.3 Griff prices were holding up.

What a surprise - 2 of the 3 advertised were up as big valves. Now, without checking, they might be but it seems a tad unlikely. Especially as there were very few made and, in most cases, the only way to know is to take the heads off.

I don't really understand the theory of this advertising anyway as they are not asking for any more money because of the supposed big valves.

Just a comment on advertising and dealer/owner (ones private and ones trade) knowledge really please don't start a BV versus non-BV argument again.

Rolfe

167 posts

258 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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I own a 4.3 which proudly displays the BV on top of the head. I know this is no way to tell so just how do you tell? I have also been told that a V on the end of the engine number denotes BV status which mine also has but equally I recognise it would also be dead easy to introduce the V onto it.
Would the original log book have stated 4.3BV? Mine only states 4.3
Is their any form of TVR/engine register that would tell us if a car is genuine BV or not? This would be a great help to anyone being offerd one of these cars and also for the seller to proove he had the real McCoy.

simpo two

86,761 posts

271 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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[quote=Rolfe]Is their any form of TVR/engine register that would tell us if a car is genuine BV or not? quote]

The Bible has a good chunk on this. In a nutshell there seem to be many more BVs around than one would would expect! Some are factory BVs; some were converted later. To be sure, you need to see the original purchase invoice, or some pukka paperwork from wherever the work was done later. I'd imagine that for investment purposes you'd want a factory one. If there's no proof, I'd be sceptical.

jigs

1,840 posts

256 months

Thursday 11th September 2003
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The factory will tell you if you give them the chassis number.

TeGriffic

1,586 posts

257 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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Just bought my 4.3 which was advertised as a BV. The previous owner bought it in good faith thinking it was a BV (even though the engine number sort of spelled it out).

>> Edited by TeGriffic on Friday 12th September 00:11

griffter

4,023 posts

261 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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My engine number ends in G. The factory told the previous owner it was a BV, TVR Power denied that it was. The previous owner was entirely honest about all this and did not advertise or sell the car as a BV, to his credit. There's no other identification on the car to suggest it is a BV. I guess it's the old right hand / left hand situation again.

2 sheds

2,529 posts

290 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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This whole big valve thing is misleading, i'm told that there were only a handful of official 4.3BVs, but some "standard" 4.3s had big valves !! in theory the 4.3BV was meant to be different in that they also had forged pistons etc, but i've been told by engine buiders that a reasonable proportion of 4.3s actually had forged pistons etc. So if we assume that the BV version had engine mods only, i would suggest that it means diddly squat, or am i wrong ?? anybody here buy one from new ?
Tim

andy43

10,227 posts

260 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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My engine no. also ends in G, and is definitely not a BV. Best way to find out would be to contact TVR Power (who built all the engines for TVR) in Coventry I think - I'm possibly looking at needing a camshaft, and they've been able to find out what cam was/is fitted originally, from their build records - all they need is the engine and chassis numbers. I wouldn't trust an advertiser without a lot of original-looking paperwork, and even then still double-check with TVR Power. Good Luck!

jonny tvr

4,541 posts

287 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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apparently there was also a few 4.5 BV's, Steve Heath has one.

Rolfe

167 posts

258 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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I have spoken to TVR Power who were great, but it would appear that there are no records for when my engine was built as these did not start formally until 1993. Apparently the V at the end of the engine does denote BV status - so unless someone has added it, it would appear to be genuine. I will check on the log book tonight to check it appears there.
Have also asked TVR for a chasis cheque. £35.00- seems a bit steeep but we all have to make a profit!
Will keep you posted!

2 sheds

2,529 posts

290 months

Friday 12th September 2003
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jonny tvr said:
apparently there was also a few 4.5 BV's, Steve Heath has one.


These are rare, about 8 built IIRC
Tim

Rolfe

167 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th September 2003
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Just to let you know that I am the proud owner of a 4.3BV according to TVR records! I am really chuffed!!!!!

glena

362 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th September 2003
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Rolfe said:
Just to let you know that I am the proud owner of a 4.3BV according to TVR records! I am really chuffed!!!!!

What exactly did you get for £35, any detailed copies of the service history?

Rolfe

167 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th September 2003
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You get a single sheet of paprer telling you:
Who sold it
Registration Date
Exact model
Body Colour
Trim colour and material
Dash Top material
Carpets colour and material
Hood colour
Dial colour
Radio type
Optional extras fitted
Service rcords notified by service agents
If it has ever been written off
Dave


>> Edited by Rolfe on Tuesday 16th September 19:49

HarryW

15,255 posts

275 months

Tuesday 16th September 2003
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Congrats on getting the provenance for the car, surely IMHO one of the true 'classics' Does shpub really have a 4.5BV as well , rarer than a rare steak in India that one, which in turn makes it probably the ultimate 'classic' griff. pah 500's thousands of them

Harry

simpo two

86,761 posts

271 months

Tuesday 16th September 2003
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Rolfe said:
You get a single sheet of paprer telling you:
Who sold it
Registration Date
Exact model
Body Colour
Trim colour and material
Dash Top material
Carpets colour and material
Hood colour
Dial colour
Radio type
Optional extras fitted
Service rcords notified by service agents
If it has ever been written off
Dave


£35 including a 'Dave' has to be a bargain...!

HarryW

15,255 posts

275 months

Tuesday 16th September 2003
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simpo two said:

Rolfe said:
You get a single sheet of paprer telling you:
Who sold it
Registration Date
Exact model
Body Colour
Trim colour and material
Dash Top material
Carpets colour and material
Hood colour
Dial colour
Radio type
Optional extras fitted
Service rcords notified by service agents
If it has ever been written off
Dave



£35 including a 'Dave' has to be a bargain...!

Does this mean his name is really Rodney then :ifyoudidntwatchonlyfoolsandhorsesthiswillmeannothingsoignoreit:

harry

shpub

8,507 posts

278 months

Thursday 18th September 2003
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jonny tvr said:
apparently there was also a few 4.5 BV's, Steve Heath has one.


Well I have looked in the garage and the garden and blow me I can't find it! How careless of me

Nope Don't have one. Have a 98 500 that has been tweaked though.