Roll Over Bar

Roll Over Bar

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rolfe

Original Poster:

167 posts

259 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Has anyone got a roll over bar for sale that would fit my 92 4.3 Griffith. If so please let me know.(see profile)
Thanks
Dave

GreenV8S

30,490 posts

291 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Tried Tower View? 0208 452 6922

rolfe

Original Poster:

167 posts

259 months

Tuesday 20th May 2003
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Thanks for that but they are charging a lot of money for a relatively simple bar!

tjasper

587 posts

290 months

Tuesday 20th May 2003
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Contact Adrian at Exactly-TVR. He has a roll-bar out of a '94 Griff 500 for sale at 150GBP.

Tel: 07956 956042

TreVoR

rolfe

Original Poster:

167 posts

259 months

Tuesday 20th May 2003
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Thanks Trevor but will it fit a 92? Steve Heaths book suggests that the mountings may not be there!

jodypress

1,940 posts

281 months

Tuesday 20th May 2003
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rolfe said: Thanks Trevor but will it fit a 92? Steve Heaths book suggests that the mountings may not be there!



have you checked with your insurer as they wanted to add an extra £200 to put in a rollbar as a mod
whereas replacing suspension with nitrons is not considered a mod as they are physically the same

GarryM

1,113 posts

290 months

Tuesday 20th May 2003
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rolfe said: Thanks for that but they are charging a lot of money for a relatively simple bar!


A fair amount of thought and presumably development work must have gone into the Tower View/Rollcentre bar. The biggest benefit that I can see is that the bar is kept away from your head minimising the risk of getting it smacked in the event of a shunt on the road (more likely than rolling your car). The extra £100 is money well spent I think (unless you can get a s/hand Rollcentre bar).

rolfe

Original Poster:

167 posts

259 months

Tuesday 20th May 2003
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Garry, The price of the bar is £376 including Vat so its a bit more than a £100 pounds! And i know you will think what price safety but sometimes it has to come down to how much you can afford.

GarryM

1,113 posts

290 months

Tuesday 20th May 2003
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I was comparing the price to other new roll bars rather than s/hand ones. Even so, may be they are more than £100 dearer. I wish you luck in your search

43scotty

141 posts

258 months

Tuesday 20th May 2003
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I have just got a "TVR" roll-bar from Team ProActive, I was under the impression that my car a 4.3 Griff (92) would have the mounting points but no shutch luck. I now have a problem ,How do I fix the bar to the rear Chassis, the front mounting will fit through the seat belt mounts.
Any help would be welcome.

rolfe

Original Poster:

167 posts

259 months

Tuesday 20th May 2003
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Thanks Garry. Reading that message again it looks more severe than it was intended to!!

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Thursday 22nd May 2003
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43scotty said: I have just got a "TVR" roll-bar from Team ProActive, I was under the impression that my car a 4.3 Griff (92) would have the mounting points but no shutch luck. I now have a problem ,How do I fix the bar to the rear Chassis, the front mounting will fit through the seat belt mounts.
Any help would be welcome.



You can't. You have to lift/remove the body and weld the mounts onto the chassis. Better off getting your money back and getting the Tower View one that doesn't rely on those mounts.

The TVR one is also cosmetic use only.


>> Edited by shpub on Thursday 22 May 09:17

jodypress

1,940 posts

281 months

Thursday 22nd May 2003
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rolfe said: Garry, The price of the bar is £376 including Vat so its a bit more than a £100 pounds! And i know you will think what price safety but sometimes it has to come down to how much you can afford.



add another few hundred for fitting too

B16 RFF

883 posts

274 months

Thursday 22nd May 2003
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The TVR one is also cosmetic use only.


How so, Steve?
(Now concerned as my Griff has a factory (I think) roll bar)
Paul.

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Thursday 22nd May 2003
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Never designed in the first place using motor sport safety guidelines on Roll bar design. It is just a bit of steel that has been bent into place. As a result, they have to describe it as cosmetic use only.

rolfe

Original Poster:

167 posts

259 months

Thursday 22nd May 2003
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Steve,
The tower bar is not approved. They Quote:
While not MSA certified or tested, they are made using the same techniques and design recommendations and with the added benefit of Rollcentre's many years experience.

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Friday 23rd May 2003
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rolfe said: Steve,
The tower bar is not approved. They Quote:
While not MSA certified or tested, they are made using the same techniques and design recommendations and with the added benefit of Rollcentre's many years experience.



Agreed and I didn't say that it was. However a lot more thought and care went into its design to ensure that it was a capable design. As the cost of certification and testing is pretty high, the next best thing is to get the bar made on the same production lines, get it designed by Martin Short who know the safety implications and have been working on roll cages for many many years and follow the MSA guidelines as stated in the Blue Book (20 pages or what not to do when making a roll bar).

The Factory bar fittings do not meet MSA recommendations. The bar is located contrary to MSA guidelines and the bar is simply a bit of bent steel. Tower View/Rollcentre actually bought one to see if it was suitable but Martin's feedback was unprintable.

Your choice in the end. There is more to roll bar design than simply bending a bit of steel tube and sticking it somewhere behind the seats.

rolfe

Original Poster:

167 posts

259 months

Friday 23rd May 2003
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I guess that brings me back to the original point. The price of the Tower bar is obviously based on an MSA approved bar even though they havent spent the money on the approval.

digga

41,365 posts

290 months

Friday 23rd May 2003
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I've got a 'factory' roll bar, fitted to my Griff 500, and have often considered upgrading, because, as Steve says, it's not the proper job.

Having said all that though, when it was fitted, you could immediately feel how much stiffer the rear of the chassis was.

And anyway, aren't we a bunch of wimps fretting about roll bars anyway? Did Fangio bother about that, or Moss, Hawthorn, Nuvolari...... (just joking!)

RichB

52,786 posts

291 months

Friday 23rd May 2003
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digga said:Did Fangio bother about that, or Moss, Hawthorn, Nuvolari.....
Wonderfull comment from Moss in one of his books, "I always try to be quick, that way the crashes are behind you"! Real men they were. Rich...