Metal Pedals ...

Metal Pedals ...

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johno

Original Poster:

8,498 posts

288 months

Saturday 17th May 2003
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As the best way to get down to the right gear very quickly under heavy braking is to Heel and Toe the shifts to stop the rears locking I need a set of metal pedals so that I can get more feel for whats going on and get the maximum benefit from from some race boots.

What pedals have people used ? Are the Leven ones any good ? How close do the brake and accelerator pedals become once changed with differing pedals ??

Cheers

Mark

davidn

1,028 posts

265 months

Saturday 17th May 2003
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Mine had a set of Sparco pedals fitted when I bought it, by adjusting brake pedal height I find them ideal for heel'n toe with the extension to the throttle pedal. Quite grippy too which is a good thing. Although the Leven ones look very good they look like they might be a bit slippery under foot, but haven't tried them so may be taking out of my ar@e.
David

EdT

5,132 posts

290 months

Saturday 17th May 2003
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I' ve got Leven one's & am very happy with the difference. Only noticed them being slippery when my my best Italian leather shoes are wet (and I shouldnt be wearing them for driving anyway, or in the rain!)

There's a lot more feel when driving the car compared to factory pedals .

Ed

johno

Original Poster:

8,498 posts

288 months

Saturday 17th May 2003
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Ed,

Which set did you buy ?

The fully adjustable throttle one or not ?

How close are the throttle and brake pedal to each other after attachment, and is it adjustable ?

Questions, question .....

Cheers

Mark

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

283 months

Saturday 17th May 2003
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I have Leven. Again, can be slippy with the wrong shoes if its wet. Pedals are adjustable, mounting bolt is offset so you can have them either way round - its not a lot of adjustment but can help if you have big plates.

EdT

5,132 posts

290 months

Sunday 18th May 2003
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johno said: Ed,

Which set did you buy ?

The fully adjustable throttle one or not ?

How close are the throttle and brake pedal to each other after attachment, and is it adjustable ?

Questions, question .....

Cheers

Mark



Adjustable set. Will take a snap tomorrow so you can see
Ed

GreenV8S

30,419 posts

290 months

Sunday 18th May 2003
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I think the pedals need to have a rubber grip surface to be road legal. Hence the all-metal pedals usually say competition use only or similar. Some types can take rubber buttons to make the road legal. Have you tried adjusting the pedal height to get h&t working?

EdT

5,132 posts

290 months

Sunday 18th May 2003
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here you go






You can rotate them to get them very close but I've left them alone since they were fitted

Ed

johno

Original Poster:

8,498 posts

288 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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GreenV8S said: I think the pedals need to have a rubber grip surface to be road legal. Hence the all-metal pedals usually say competition use only or similar. Some types can take rubber buttons to make the road legal. Have you tried adjusting the pedal height to get h&t working?


Height isn't the problem, its the proximity horizontally that seems a little too distant and I wanted to confirm I could move them closer together.

I had also heard that metal pedals were a no no when it came to road legallity. I shall be seeking to cover them for general road use and them uncover them for track use, as it then that I really want the additional feel.


johno

Original Poster:

8,498 posts

288 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Ed,

Cheers for the photo's ... di you go for the fully adjustable throttle or just the over pedal cover thingy .. ?

Cheers

Mark

EdT

5,132 posts

290 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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johno said: Ed,

Cheers for the photo's ... di you go for the fully adjustable throttle or just the over pedal cover thingy .. ?

Cheers

Mark



full adjustable set. If you want to look next time near Reading mail me
Ed

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

288 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Some people sre slightly missing the point here.Green V8S(aka Pete Humphries) says that they have to have rubber grips to be legal. Have an accident and the insurance engineer will walk away from your claim if he wishes to(and he will wish to). Injure someone who lives and you have NO insurance. That can be VERY expensive. Competition use only means NOT suitable for road use.

johno

Original Poster:

8,498 posts

288 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Steve,

I take what you say very seriously and that is why I have stated that they will be rubber covered when they are on the road.

The question that I ask is if they are illegal on the road, how come TVR's are currently produced with metal pedals ? Is this OK if they are type approved ? What is the difference ?

johno

Original Poster:

8,498 posts

288 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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EdT said:

johno said: Ed,

Cheers for the photo's ... di you go for the fully adjustable throttle or just the over pedal cover thingy .. ?

Cheers

Mark



full adjustable set. If you want to look next time near Reading mail me
Ed



Will do !

PS - Love the darts site


thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

288 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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I think you will find that TVR have SVA for most(all)the current production range but that aside if you have to have rubber then you have to have rubber. If you are rich enough to argue the toss have metal. By the way my cars all have metal except the griff.

johno

Original Poster:

8,498 posts

288 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Fair play ...

All I have to do is to cover them with runner and they are legal for the road as that's how the standard items are already.

zippy500

1,883 posts

275 months

Wednesday 21st May 2003
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For what its worth, I have just spoken to my insurers (Mannings) and they assured me that the fitment of any type of pedals dosent concern them what so ever for road or track use. They did advise I write a letter though to clarify what I have done for record purposes.
Just as well rally as I have just fited some.

RichB

52,578 posts

290 months

Wednesday 21st May 2003
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Johno, I have had Leven's metal pedals in my Griff for a few years now, and have had no problems with them being slippery or with passing the m.o.t. Cheers Rich...

shpub

8,507 posts

278 months

Thursday 22nd May 2003
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The SVA approval states that the pedals need to have a non-slip surface and have no sign of wear. i.e. smooth metal is a no-no. The MOT regs also state the same.

There are also references to type approved components and it may be that because of this the pedal needs to have a rubber surface to be approved. I do know that the metal pedal covers that TVR supplied were put in the boot of the car and not actually fitted by TVR which seems to support the type approval issue. Sparco and their distributors have a non for road use disclaimer on their products except for the ones with rubber inserts.

BTW I have just gone back to rubber pedals on the 520 ( except for the clutch) because I found heel and toe was a lot easiers because the surface was less slippery. This was with pedals with serrated ally and rubber inserts.

Another grey area indeed.