Radio reception - Griff 500

Radio reception - Griff 500

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coachmans

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370 posts

276 months

Saturday 27th October 2001
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Has anyone had the same problem of the radio reception getting more and more distorted over first 10 to 20 minutes of driving. (After that we have to resort to the cd's or the lovely sound of the exhaust!! but other half not so keen on that.) Suspect the active aerial - or what. Help..........
Chris

simon(tilling)

2,136 posts

279 months

Monday 29th October 2001
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Yeh, only mine's crap all the time, anyone know were to get an arial amp that works?

Simon

vodkakid

1,076 posts

278 months

Monday 29th October 2001
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does the noise match the engine sounds?? ie when you rev it??

andy c

coachmans

Original Poster:

370 posts

276 months

Sunday 4th November 2001
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Reception gets worse over 10 to 15 mins and is not engine revs linked. I've spent 10 years on vehicle electrics and reckon its either an earthing problem(???) or the aerial amp is crapping out with heat (self generated!!). Anybody fitted a screen mounted aerial with success??

Marshy

2,748 posts

290 months

Monday 5th November 2001
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I believe the aerial is above the screen anyway, but that doesn't mean to say a better screen type aerial won't be better.

An auto electronics shop reckoned that good reception would be tough due to the vehicle not having a decent ground plane, on account of it not being metal.

I've looked at various aerials in car accessory stores (sorry, don't go there often!) but never taken the plunge 'cos I don't know if it'll improve matters.

The only working suggestion I've heard so far is to upgrade to a DAB stereo, but they're not cheap, and I haven't seen a DAB+minidisc head yet.

richb

52,535 posts

290 months

Monday 5th November 2001
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I've heard the same story about the ground plane on glass fibre cars but do Lotus have the same problem?

500 GRF

99 posts

278 months

Monday 5th November 2001
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A bad radio reception was the least of my Lotus problems...

Marshy

2,748 posts

290 months

Monday 5th November 2001
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One friend with an Elise had crap radio reception, another with an Esprit hasn't said anything, but I'll ask him.

wezo

247 posts

290 months

Monday 5th November 2001
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Its a generic problem with composite bodied vehicles as the are difficult to earth. Saying that though my Elise seems pretty good - a lot better than my old 205 anyway.

AdamB

418 posts

290 months

Monday 5th November 2001
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The only working suggestion I've heard so far is to upgrade to a DAB stereo, but they're not cheap, and I haven't seen a DAB+minidisc head yet.



DAB requires a seperate aerial anyway so your back to putting a through the windscreen jobby in place I'm afraid.

John Bull

74 posts

276 months

Friday 9th November 2001
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I am probably being clueless but if a small portable radio made with a plastic body has good reception then why should a TVR not have good reception too? Does the GRP interfere with the reception or is it electronic interferance from the engine that plays havoc?


Edited by John Bull on Friday 9th November 18:24

Finston

107 posts

276 months

Friday 9th November 2001
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Who needs a radio with that V8.

TVR_nut

390 posts

280 months

Sunday 11th November 2001
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Who needs a radio with that V8.



Only time I use my Griff radio is when working on it in the garage - on the move I prefer the sound of the V8, like you.

TVR_nut

the dodo

42 posts

276 months

Saturday 1st December 2001
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I have had rubbish reception on my 500 for ages, but now i have an aerial that works! And no it is not a 30 ft mast bolted to the boot. I need a Chimera to try the same, anybody near Swindon ?

richb

52,535 posts

290 months

Sunday 2nd December 2001
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David, go on then, what have you done to make it work? R...

Marshy

2,748 posts

290 months

Sunday 2nd December 2001
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Sadly nowhere near Swindon, but also interested to know what you did.

the dodo

42 posts

276 months

Sunday 2nd December 2001
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Hang on for a couple of days until i can finalise the final spec with the aerial manufacturer.
David

flying gibbon

2,244 posts

288 months

Sunday 2nd December 2001
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The solution I've heard is to fit a decent windsceen aerial around the inside of the boot, which gives you better reception somehow. Not tried it myself... has anyone else?

ATG

21,153 posts

278 months

Sunday 2nd December 2001
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Same question as John Bull's. I can see that having a large metal plate relatively close to the ground on a "normal" car would offer some capicitance that could earth a radio signal, but there must be aerial designs that don't need any earthing at all (unless I've missed the 35000 ft earthing strap dangling out the back of 747s).

Having some kind of an earth would no doubt siginificantly improve the reception of an aerial and make the signal to noise ratio much better in the noisey environment of a car. My main reception problems start when I turn on the windscreen wipers. Noise sources are going to be the spark plugs and any DC motors (like the wipers). Cures are choke coils in series with the radio power supply and capacitors across the sources of noise. Anyone tried this? Any tips?

xain

261 posts

283 months

Tuesday 11th December 2001
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Hang on hang on, there are some very odd theories flying about here.

The problem with fibreglass cars isn't the grounding. The chassis can easily do that if wired up properly. And this business about the large metal plate close to ground... :-)

There *may* be an issue that the aerial on most steel cars is outside of the bodyshell, and therefore the grounded bodyshell provides quite a good lot of screening from the electrical noise of the engine/electrics. That's it as far as I know.

I've tried an aerial booster... no difference, and a boosted screen aerial. This seemed better, but was either *very* position dependant, or had a bad connection. I'm starting to suspect my radio, but I should point out that since my tracker GPS/GSM module is in there somewhere (not telling!) this could be providing a lot of the noise.

I don't get any engine-related whines/whistles, so it's something else. Either signal strength, poor earthing or heavy high frequency interference.