Tin Spoiler - Under front of Griffith

Tin Spoiler - Under front of Griffith

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johno

Original Poster:

8,521 posts

289 months

Tuesday 1st April 2003
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All,

Has anyone come to a definitive answer on whether the spoiler is definitely needed for high speed stability, aerodynamics or cooling ?

After I collected the Griffith from WLA's last night after the gearbox scenario I also collected a lickle flunny bunny .... unfortunately at the speed I was travelling the mating of the bunny and the spoiler meant that both got f**ked !

Cheers

Mark

atg

21,373 posts

279 months

Tuesday 1st April 2003
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definitive? on a TVR??

Walldonway bloke told me it was for stability, but only made a difference over about 120mph. I've had the Chim up to 140mph and it seemed fairly stable without the splitter. I've had no overheating probs without the splitter (if you think about it, as an aerodynamic divice, it can only help cooling when you are on the move, and these cars only have "problems" when stationary).

johno

Original Poster:

8,521 posts

289 months

Tuesday 1st April 2003
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Wholly agree. I was obviously forced to take the Griffith to a suitable speed and chek its stability and it seemed fine. How much air it oushes in for cooling is also rather debatable ...

gary judd

2,675 posts

272 months

Tuesday 1st April 2003
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hi mark
glad to see you have got your car back.as for the front spliter most cars lose them. i have had mine on and off did not make any difference to my driving . see you sooooon.
gary and cerb

simont

2,136 posts

280 months

Tuesday 1st April 2003
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I fitted a splitter thingy to the front of my Griff, it brought the ave runnig temp down by 5-10C. I think it works by causing a low pressure area behind itself which then draws air down through the engine bay and thus through the rad. Assuming this is the case then said low pressure area would also create some downforce (suck) once the speed reached a level that meant the airflow through the rad/bonnet could not satisfy the lower pressure

Leadfoot

1,905 posts

288 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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No splitter on mine & no probs with stability at speed

RichB

52,782 posts

291 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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Splitter on mine & still no probs with stability at speed

tvr4ever

643 posts

267 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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I have no splitter either, and no cooling problems. Knowing that Holland has the most traffic cameras of any country per mile, i feel no need to go past a 120.
Have a look at www.fstegeman.demon.nl/TVR%20Griffith.htm you see a copper and on the right there is a green garbage cannister with a speedcam in it, that's how the Dutch police tries to nail speeders.

Btw he was not ammused by me taking his picture...

Fred

apache

39,731 posts

291 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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tvr4ever said: I have no splitter either, and no cooling problems. Knowing that Holland has the most traffic cameras of any country per mile, i feel no need to go past a 120.
Have a look at www.fstegeman.demon.nl/TVR%20Griffith.htm you see a copper and on the right there is a green garbage cannister with a speedcam in it, that's how the Dutch police tries to nail speeders.

Btw he was not ammused by me taking his picture...

Fred


sneaky bast, I notice the sign is turned around too

david beer

3,982 posts

274 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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I have a perspex air ram that directs air in for cooling, it doesnt underhang the body at all. If anybody wants a pic to copy it, let me know.

apache

39,731 posts

291 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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I'd like to see that mate

Ballistic Banana

14,700 posts

274 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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david beer said: I have a perspex air ram that directs air in for cooling, it doesnt underhang the body at all. If anybody wants a pic to copy it, let me know.


Would also like to see this David

BB

CraigAlsop

1,991 posts

275 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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Is this a new mod-wise addition? I too would be interested to see it....

david beer

3,982 posts

274 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2003
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It is something anybody with a gig saw can make, ok if anybody doesnt have one it can be made. A slight problem would be for people who have defective water stats or "artificial cold stats" as in winter it would mean a cold engine above a crawl! Of course in the hot summer we are about to have, it will mean the most air through the rad without loosing a splitter on the first "sleeping policeman".

david beer

3,982 posts

274 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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The standard splitter does have an effect on cooling.Stability, well maybe maybe not. The Griff rad is at an angle and air entering the mouth will "fall" out of the bottom as its the easier route for it. If you can prevent that then why not? Every little helps! Of course as normal "there is absolutely nothing wrong with the standard setup"

trefor

14,661 posts

290 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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Thrash Em-Alot said: People please stop worrying about cooling and stability, from a little alloy spoiler. You would find it damn near impossible to spot any change in stability ,especially on are roads. I have to agree that this also has no effect on cooling either. If it is such a needed part to the car, then why is it fitted to the Chim,in the same place accept it's facing in a completely different direction.


Er, TVR vehicle technician calling himself 'Thrash Em-Alot' worries me. You'd better not.

RichB

52,782 posts

291 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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Prap's we'd all better start asking the dealer if Graham Osgood will be working on it before we book in for a service!

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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Somepeople claim it does things.... I found that it doesn't. Even spoke to people who claim that it was a miracle but had been driving for some time without it...

simon.b

1,230 posts

289 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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The splitter (mine is home made) defiantly changes the cooling characteristics of my Griff.

With the splitter fitted the temperature rapidly comes down from an indicated 90, once the road speed averages over 40 mph.

Without the splitter the temperature only comes down from 90 when motorway speeds are averaged.

In the warmer months (I only put mine on for the summer) the temp rises up to fan operation speed quickly i.e. around 90, if on a steady B road run averaging 60 mph then my temp gauge will read around 80. On a motorway it will be down to just above 70.

In the winter (no splitter) once the temp reaches 90 (and I agree this may not happen unless stop start journeys) then it never goes back down, unless sustained high speed cruising which then drops it to around 80.

As for the stability question, I don’t know, but I must admit at high speed I have driven far more stable vehicles and if my boot lid isn’t shut properly it pops at around 80.

Apart from my splitter the cooling system is completely standard (though I think splitters were fitted by TVR) with the addition of a fan override switch.

Cheers,

Simon.

apcouldwell

51 posts

291 months

Thursday 3rd April 2003
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David, I would also like to see the splitter. Have the twin speed fan mod now set up correctly after re-fitting a 74 degree thermostat.

Alan Couldwell