How can I go faster...

How can I go faster...

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xskier

Original Poster:

24 posts

267 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Will be the proud happy owner of a 98 500 by the end of the week! Having never owned car faster that an 89 golf drever I quite naturaly want to make up for all the lost time. What I want to know is: (A) what are the true figures for the HP (i am getting conflicting ones) and (B) what are the best ways, and relative costs to getting more power?
The faster the better!

jeremyc

24,570 posts

291 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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What I want to know is: (A) what are the true figures for the HP (i am getting conflicting ones) and (B) what are the best ways, and relative costs to getting more power?
(A) I shouldn't worry about the 'pub talk' power figures, the performance stats (0-60, 0-100, top speed etc.) seem pretty accurate.
(B) Upgrade the nut behind the wheel before touching any part of your Griffith - high performance driver training will increase your speed much more than any brake, suspension or engine upgrade, and will make sure you are still around to enjoy it.

xskier

Original Poster:

24 posts

267 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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thanks J will be doing plenty of learning for sure, but just wondering what upgrades are easly available

Alex

9,975 posts

291 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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It's been nice knowing you, xskier...

Seriously, if you're coming from a Golf Driver to a Griff,

1) TAKE IT EASY!
2) Get tuition, maybe at a trackday or skidpan.
3) TAKE IT EASY!
4) You DO NOT want more power.

xskier

Original Poster:

24 posts

267 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Point taken chaps, I will be giong easy. Hope to be taking my first lesson this WE on the track. I'm not as mad as all that, it is just the euphoria of the moment!

julianhj

8,792 posts

269 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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As said before, even with 280-300 bhp (true figures for most Griffs put on rolling roads), you'll find it is a phenomenal amount for such a light car. It will go far harder and faster than you will be able to.

Driver upgrades are the way forward...

SGirl

7,922 posts

268 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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I'd agree with the above. IIRC a standard Griff 500 gives 280-290 BHP, and that's lots in something weighing not much more than a shopping trolley. If you have much more it makes it (more) difficult to handle. These cars can bite if you're not used to them, and adding power wouldn't really be wise at this stage...

That said, there are all kinds of hints and tips in the forums on here on how to go about improving performance. One good one is to get Mark Adams to put in a Tornado chip and set the car up on a rolling road - do a search and see what you find.

But Jeremy's advice above is good stuff. Get yourself some tuition - the money will be better spent learning to drive the car. You can always up the power later on if you decide that's what you want to do.

Good luck, stay safe - and have fun in your new beast!

beano500

20,854 posts

282 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Alex said:

1) TAKE IT EASY!
2) Get tuition, maybe at a trackday or skidpan.
3) TAKE IT EASY!
4) You DO NOT want more power.


Here here! Worry about more power in six months time (or maybe NOT just before winter!)

And you won't need to worry about what's coming from under the bonnet except that it is "adequate" (as Rolls Royce used to say about top speed).

Airfield is an alternative to track day.

But whatever, welcome aboard - you're sure to have fun!!!

beano500

20,854 posts

282 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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SGirl said: ... in something weighing not much more than a shopping trolley.


It is a "shopping trolley" if you ask me or Steve Heath!!!

(And the number of TVRs I see in Waitrose in Sunningdale.......!)

Stopherson

24 posts

265 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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beano - which airfield do you mean? Can you let rip with nobody around?

Would love to find the limits of my car without anyone or any tree to crash into..

SGirl

7,922 posts

268 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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beano500 said: It is a "shopping trolley" if you ask me or Steve Heath!!!

julianhj

8,792 posts

269 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Stopherson said: beano - which airfield do you mean? Can you let rip with nobody around?

Would love to find the limits of my car without anyone or any tree to crash into..


This might be a good start...

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=26698&f=13&h=0

Looks like quite a few PHers going...

Charlie360

380 posts

265 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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16:50
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Point taken chaps, I will be giong easy. Hope to be taking my first lesson this WE on the track. I'm not as mad as all that, it is just the euphoria of the moment! ------------------------------------------

You were as mad as all that last time I let you near my Cerbera.......remember that gearbox coming back from LeMans?

RichB

52,781 posts

291 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Having never owned car faster that an 89 golf driver I quite naturally want to make up for all the lost time.
Oh my god, that comment worries me! Just take your time and get used to the car, if you’re for real (it’s not half-term is it?) then wise up quickly. You're coming from a front wheel drive average car and are stepping into one of the fastest cars on the road – a 5 litre V8 rear wheel drive beast! If you smash it you'll put all our insurance premiums up not to mention the other consequences. Just take delivery and let us know if you really think “the faster the better” next week – unless of course you’ve been honing around tail out power sliding since you were 14 and were an up an coming Formula Junior driver until your money ran out

What I want to know is: (A) what are the true figures for the HP (i am getting conflicting ones)
anywhere from 260-300 bhp.

(B) what are the best ways, and relative costs to getting more power?
Brakes, £1,500 - £2,000 - Suspension around £1,000 Engine £Sky's the limit! But say £2,000 - £3,000 for anything worthwhile. See my cars modifications on www.greenbear.org.uk

Above all, be realistic with yourself, have fun, and stay alive! Rich...

xskier

Original Poster:

24 posts

267 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Your not still upset about that little thing are you?

anyone can forget to use the clutch when they are shitting themselves!

beano500

20,854 posts

282 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Stopherson said: beano - which airfield do you mean? Can you let rip with nobody around?

Would love to find the limits of my car without anyone or any tree to crash into..



I was prompted to think of it mainly by threads like: www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=27239&f=23&h=0&hw=airfield

Seems like a good idea, even though I haven't tried one yet!


xskier said:
anyone can forget to use the clutch when they are shitting themselves!


Xskier - you are certainly gonna have fun in a Griff! Suggest you get down the gym and work on those left leg muscles (and some others!) right now


xskier

Original Poster:

24 posts

267 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Did I mention that my much cherished golf is an automatic?

donatien

1,113 posts

265 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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xskier said: Did I mention that my much cherished golf is an automatic?


Any chance of a quick trim tomorrow?

tig

143 posts

270 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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donatien said:

xskier said: Did I mention that my much cherished golf is an automatic?


Any chance of a quick trim tomorrow?



Better be quick - its all number twos after the weekend !

But seriously, Ive only had mine for 7 months - best thing I ever did

GarryM

1,113 posts

290 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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RichB said: See my cars modifications on www.greenbear.org.uk

Rich...



Just like to say Rich that you have a superb Griff (just like mine ) Mine's not modified (yet) but I'd like to do everything you have done. I'm interested to see you haven't upgraded the suspension (any reason?) or fitted a roll bar. The latter is probably where I will start - it makes total sense but I can't say I like the look of them.