VW mirrors on a Griff
Discussion
You may have seen my posts on converting a Griff from the Citroen mirrors to VW Corrado mirrors.
I was initially concerned that the Citroen mirrors are driven by 3 cables, whilst the VW nmirrors use 4. However, there is a second (2 pin) connector that is unused in the door which provides the last cable required.
Wiring is thus not a problem. However, the mirror ECU (located beneath the steering column) must run a certain type of chip (and one wire needs to be snipped) to be able to run the VW mirrors - the later the ECU the more likely it is to support the VW mirrors.
The moral of the story is the conversion is not as simple as I thought and I may need to change the mirror ECU to enable the fitment of the VW mirrors.
Overall project cost is climbing - if you are considering the same move my advice is not to remove mirrors/snip wires until I have resolved the next steps...
I was initially concerned that the Citroen mirrors are driven by 3 cables, whilst the VW nmirrors use 4. However, there is a second (2 pin) connector that is unused in the door which provides the last cable required.
Wiring is thus not a problem. However, the mirror ECU (located beneath the steering column) must run a certain type of chip (and one wire needs to be snipped) to be able to run the VW mirrors - the later the ECU the more likely it is to support the VW mirrors.
The moral of the story is the conversion is not as simple as I thought and I may need to change the mirror ECU to enable the fitment of the VW mirrors.
Overall project cost is climbing - if you are considering the same move my advice is not to remove mirrors/snip wires until I have resolved the next steps...
Toffer said: Why change the mirors...the Citroen items are tidy enough?
Because I don't like them (especially the rubber bands around them) - they create a lot of wind noise and if you fold them in they scrape the door tops. A few others seem intersted in this change, which is why I posted this.
In my opinion the VW mirrors are a neater, cleaner shape. TVR also fitted them to the last 100 Griffs...
Only my opinion though....
Yeah. I'll have to make do with Tuscan S/T350C mirrors
(I could have said T440R, but they fitted a slightly more aerodynamic front to the VW mirrors to the motor show car).
The factory have confirmed my mirror ECU will run the Veedub (sorry, Tuscan S) mirrors. I just need to snip the black wire in recess 16 (sounds a bit bomb disposal, doesn't it?). So good news for me. Anything much later than mine (Feb 1999) would be a problem, necessitating messing about with relays or acquiring a new mirror ecu or from a written off cerb/tuscan/tamora.
>> Edited by griff2be on Thursday 12th December 12:18
(I could have said T440R, but they fitted a slightly more aerodynamic front to the VW mirrors to the motor show car). The factory have confirmed my mirror ECU will run the Veedub (sorry, Tuscan S) mirrors. I just need to snip the black wire in recess 16 (sounds a bit bomb disposal, doesn't it?). So good news for me. Anything much later than mine (Feb 1999) would be a problem, necessitating messing about with relays or acquiring a new mirror ecu or from a written off cerb/tuscan/tamora.
>> Edited by griff2be on Thursday 12th December 12:18
CraigAlsop said:Do you really mean later? I would have thought it was the other way around, since Tuscan S's came out later than that. Ah well.
griff2be said: Anything later than mine (Feb 1999) would be a problem though.
I was just seeing if you were paying attention
Yes, earlier dammit!!!
Rich… griff2be, good to hear that your mirrors are coming on
Are you going to have them ready for vw meet this weekend though?!
My drivers side mirror came off ok and its sitting in primer at this moment. Will be top coated tonight so hope to be finished for saturday. Its interesting to note that I dont think that those rubber bands on the citreon mirrors do anything. Not from what I could see anyway.
cheers
alex
Are you going to have them ready for vw meet this weekend though?!
My drivers side mirror came off ok and its sitting in primer at this moment. Will be top coated tonight so hope to be finished for saturday. Its interesting to note that I dont think that those rubber bands on the citreon mirrors do anything. Not from what I could see anyway.
cheers
alex
Two chances of them being ready: Slim and none, and Slim's out of town....
I got two mirrors from a scrap yard but sacrificed one in the interests of figuring out how they worked. Then I sourced brand new ones at a lot less than the VW price - so ordered them, but they won't arrive until next week. Then I still need to paint them... assembly and wiring is the easy bit now.
Currently my Griff is sans ears. More aerodynamic and I'm getting a lot less stone chips on the mirrors! Makes driving on the motorway more interesting though!
I got two mirrors from a scrap yard but sacrificed one in the interests of figuring out how they worked. Then I sourced brand new ones at a lot less than the VW price - so ordered them, but they won't arrive until next week. Then I still need to paint them... assembly and wiring is the easy bit now.
Currently my Griff is sans ears. More aerodynamic and I'm getting a lot less stone chips on the mirrors! Makes driving on the motorway more interesting though!
Rich...
griff2be said:
Toffer said: Why change the mirors...the Citroen items are tidy enough?
Because I don't like them (especially the rubber bands around them) - they create a lot of wind noise and if you fold them in they scrape the door tops. A few others seem intersted in this change, which is why I posted this.
You can hear wind noise...must be having a laugh or coasting downhill with the engine off!
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