4 Point Harness Fitting

[johno]

As Santa has my list of requirements for Xmas I really need to kick this thread of ....

It is my understanding that the later 500's had the chassis fittings for a harness through the rear parcel shelf. I have available an eye bolt and was wondering several different things ....

1 - Is this a DIY'able job...

If so ...

2 - What length does the eye bolt need to be ?

3 - Where do the lap belts fit too ? (I presume the seat belt mounts)

4 - Anyone like to make a preference on type of belts as at the moment I am going for a Sparco (In black of course !)

Cheers

Mark

[GreenV8S]

As Santa has my list of requirements for Xmas I really need to kick this thread of ....

It is my understanding that the later 500's had the chassis fittings for a harness through the rear parcel shelf. I have available an eye bolt and was wondering several different things ....

1 - Is this a DIY'able job...

If so ...

2 - What length does the eye bolt need to be ?

3 - Where do the lap belts fit too ? (I presume the seat belt mounts)

4 - Anyone like to make a preference on type of belts as at the moment I am going for a Sparco (In black of course !)

Cheers

Mark

I strongly suggest you mount it off the roll-over bar, or not at all. Any manufacturer as long as you go for the proper rotary release buckle (which unclips the shoulder straps from the waist band) not the cheaper sort that just unbuckles the waist band.

[johno]

As I do not have a Rollbar this would preclude that method of fitting. I also do not intend on putting one on yet.

The model I am going for has the rotary release for all belts. I wouldn't consider anything else !

[pete]

johno said: As I do not have a Rollbar this would preclude that method of fitting. I also do not intend on putting one on yet.

I'd have a serious think about what you'll do in the (unlikely) eventuality that you roll the car while wearing harnesses. 3 point belts give you enough room to duck against the transmission tunnel, hence the people who've survived rolling Griffs and Chimaeras with relatively minor injuries. With a 4 point harness you'll be held tightly into your seat...

As for mounting points, you can use the lower seat belt mounts, but you need much longer eye bolts than standard to fit through the existing seatbelt, then through the thick GRP into the chassis. Something like 2" long by 7/16ths if I remember correctly - they're about 9 quid each from Demon Tweeks.

My harnesses are Luke 3" with a rotary buckle, and only use one of the original seat belt mounts (the inside bottom one). The other 3 bolts are into the roll bar.

Cheerio,
Pete

[gary judd]

hi mark if i was you i would attach the seat belt anchor point to the toggle clip witch is located next to the gigler vavle. if you would like me to show you where they are located i will be available on december 25th about 3pm.look forward to your reply. see you soon mate. gary loraine and soon to ressurected cerb

[GreenV8S]

johno said: I wouldn't consider anything else!

Good man! But I'd still be very cautious about a full harness without proper rollover protection if I was you. I did have it like this for a couple of seasons, but I know it wasn't sensible and I felt a lot safer after I had the rollover bar fitted.

[shpub]

It is extensively covered in the Griff bible and even more so in the new version.

I agree with Pete, get a roll bar first.

Steve

[shpub]

It is extensively covered in the Griff bible and even more so in the new version.

I agree with Pete, get a roll bar first.

Steve

[shpub]

It is extensively covered in the Griff bible and even more so in the new version.

I agree with Pete, get a roll bar first.

Steve

[johno]

Cheers guys.... I had considered this and maybe I shall revise my plans accordingly.

I do feel a lot safer in a full harness, but take on board peoples opinion as regards rolling the car and the ability to duck out of the way with a normal belt.

Although I would possibly question anybodies ability to force themselves in to a position over the transmission tunnel in anything other than a slow speed incident. We are talking a considerable effort to execute this against forces far beyond most peoples strength.

Thanks all.

[johno]

gary judd said: hi mark if i was you i would attach the seat belt anchor point to the toggle clip witch is located next to the gigler vavle. if you would like me to show you where they are located i will be available on december 25th about 3pm.look forward to your reply. see you soon mate. gary loraine and soon to ressurected cerb

I heard the toggler clip to gliggler valve was only any good if you had the retro fitted whatsamacallit bracket and howdyamaflip slider. If not the giggler valve is prone to blowing and therefor the toggler clip breaks releasing toxic gases into the cabin.

I will be unavailable on the 25th as it is Easter weekend and will be going egg hunting with rabbit.

I believe you are going to come down to the Blazing Donkey for some Xmas frovolity ! Can't wait ! Bring your spare giggler valve.

Cheers

Mark

[Mel]

shpub said: It is extensively covered in the Griff bible and even more so in the new version.

I agree with Pete, get a roll bar first.

Steve

shpub said: It is extensively covered in the Griff bible and even more so in the new version.

I agree with Pete, get a roll bar first.

Steve

shpub said: It is extensively covered in the Griff bible and even more so in the new version.

I agree with Pete, get a roll bar first.

Steve

Yep thats pretty extensive

[johno]

I agree Mel. I think Steve must have felt rather passionately about this one

[gary judd]

hi mark i think young man you are very confussed the slidervalve is connected to the offset grunge valve witch would be be a problem with the wadyoumacallit.if you have any doubt i will be producing a workshop manual shortly so if any one would like to place an order please to not hesitate to contact me.just to put you right the 25th of december is not rabbit season it is with out a doubt haggis seson. the best time to bag one is between 9-12pm on the 25th of december on blackheath at a secret location only known by the writers of said griff workshop manual.if you would like to receive a copy before that date a sum of £5000 must be sent a.s.a.p. i hope this clarifies all of your misconceptions and look forward to hearing from you. gary ,loraine and new engine

[shpub]

johno said: I agree Mel. I think Steve must have felt rather passionately about this one

I am putting this down to be being filled up with Morphine....