Griffith 4.3 Dyno Result

Griffith 4.3 Dyno Result

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strangehighways

Original Poster:

482 posts

172 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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I went down to Kits and Classics to get Joolz to run the car on the dyno and, if required, do some tweaking.

The car is a standard 4.3 (no indication that it is a big valve one), apart from the car has a new cam which is a v8 development 'stealth'.

I was hoping for 250 bhp plus but was pleasantly surprised. 283 bhp!

Torque was about 292/293 lb ft

There was no real need to do any tweaks so the car wasn't touched.

Anyone with a 4.3 got similar results?


Belle427

9,737 posts

240 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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Great result, I’d be happy with that if it is mostly standard.

SFTWend

1,035 posts

82 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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Wow, that's excellent. How many miles has it done and was the cam part of a rebuild? What extra would the hot cam make over standard, 10/20 bhp?

I suspect that's very nearly as much bhp as 500s made fresh from the factory (although the 500 no doubt has a chunk more torque).

No idea what my 4.3 makes and don't care as she is plenty fast enough for me. Makes a rather nice noise as well!

Matthew Poxon

5,329 posts

180 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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That a fantastic result, lovely flat torque and power all the way though to almost 6k.

I would personally leave that as it is and just enjoy it.

spitfire4v8

4,017 posts

188 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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Matthew Poxon said:
I would personally leave that as it is and just enjoy it.
That's exactly what I said smile I do like a precat Griff smile

Matthew Poxon

5,329 posts

180 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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spitfire4v8 said:
That's exactly what I said smile I do like a precat Griff smile
Agreed, you really cannot beat a 4.3 Precat and that lovely sounding revvy engine.

strangehighways

Original Poster:

482 posts

172 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2022
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SFTWend said:
Wow, that's excellent. How many miles has it done and was the cam part of a rebuild? What extra would the hot cam make over standard, 10/20 bhp?

I suspect that's very nearly as much bhp as 500s made fresh from the factory (although the 500 no doubt has a chunk more torque).

No idea what my 4.3 makes and don't care as she is plenty fast enough for me. Makes a rather nice noise as well!
It’s done 65k miles. It was due a cam as I had no power above 4K and was on the original so I chose the v8 developments stealth after they said that the 4.3 can have those. I think they said it gives better performance at the top end than the mc1.

It’s had no other engine work as far as I’m aware in it’s life.

I’m not sure how it compares in bhp vs the mc1 cam or a Kent 214 (which it came with from factory I think).

I think it’s bone stock apart from the stealth.

NicBowman

785 posts

245 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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Hi, just to add. My previous 4.3 seemed quicker than my current 500. So not surprised the power figures overlap. But, eventually I couldn’t live with the (amazing) noise on a run. 30 mins good, any longer bad! 500 has more torque, plus 10dB quieter…

Nic

SFTWend

1,035 posts

82 months

Thursday 23rd June 2022
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NicBowman said:
Hi, just to add. My previous 4.3 seemed quicker than my current 500. So not surprised the power figures overlap. But, eventually I couldn’t live with the (amazing) noise on a run. 30 mins good, any longer bad! 500 has more torque, plus 10dB quieter…

Nic
That surprises me Nic.

My 4.3 is completely stock and I find it quite civilised when cruising.

Barreti

6,680 posts

244 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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They are great numbers. I had mine done at the Griff Growl a few years ago and it was the same kind of straight line 'curve' but 264hp

stevesprint

1,118 posts

186 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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strangehighways said:
Anyone with a 4.3 got similar results?
269bhp, 288lb/ft a few years ago at +70,000 miles on original Kent 214 cam etc


NicBowman said:
Hi, just to add. My previous 4.3 seemed quicker than my current 500. So not surprised the power figures overlap. But, eventually I couldn’t live with the (amazing) noise on a run. 30 mins good, any longer bad! 500 has more torque, plus 10dB quieter…

Nic
My exhaust is also standard and Mrs SteveSprint & I had no problems driving 4 hours to & from Burghley House.

PeteGriff

1,262 posts

164 months

Friday 8th July 2022
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4.3 the one to have.

SFTWend

1,035 posts

82 months

Monday 11th July 2022
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PeteGriff said:
4.3 the one to have.
Yep. Surprised the market hasn't recognised that yet.

NicBowman

785 posts

245 months

Monday 11th July 2022
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Ref the noise, my 4.3 exhaust wasn’t standard. Maybe explains it! Although the 500 is quieter, the quietest TVR, I believe. Nic

davemac250

4,499 posts

212 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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Mine did 270/270 a few years back.

Then, well things went south.

griffster

172 posts

104 months

Wednesday 27th July 2022
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spitfire4v8 said:
That's exactly what I said smile I do like a precat Griff smile
I do Not understand why the more common Catted 500 has stronger pricing than this near 'perfect' variation.....
Enough performance without excessive traction overwhelming torque
Free revving
Best sound by far, with no Compulsory Cats - unforgettable from idle to, Muscle, to Nascar, to near old F1
Arguably better ride
Low number left on the road compared to more common 400 and readily available 500

Given prices of alternative cars to TVR right now, I would put the following values on Griff range:

400: 19k
500: 22k
430: £25k
450: £29k

Assuming good condition and normal mileage

Rare pre-CatGrffs can still be had from £15k!!!!

No....wait, lets buy a Mk1 Escort (Rs1600): £90k...................................... (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284883162123?hash=item42545c140b:g:ucYAAOSwMstiwBnU)



World has gone utterly insane

Belle427

9,737 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th July 2022
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griffster said:
spitfire4v8 said:
That's exactly what I said smile I do like a precat Griff smile
I do Not understand why the more common Catted 500 has stronger pricing than this near 'perfect' variation.....
Enough performance without excessive traction overwhelming torque
Free revving
Best sound by far, with no Compulsory Cats - unforgettable from idle to, Muscle, to Nascar, to near old F1
Arguably better ride
Low number left on the road compared to more common 400 and readily available 500

Given prices of alternative cars to TVR right now, I would put the following values on Griff range:

400: 19k
500: 22k
430: £25k
450: £29k

Assuming good condition and normal mileage

Rare pre-CatGrffs can still be had from £15k!!!!

No....wait, lets buy a Mk1 Escort (Rs1600): £90k...................................... (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284883162123?hash=item42545c140b:g:ucYAAOSwMstiwBnU)



World has gone utterly insane
I’ve not looked but I rarely see many 4.3 variants for sale?
The only thing that puts me off a pre cat is the LT77 transmission but I suppose if it’s a good one and it is used in many cars.
I do get the pre cat image thing but doesn’t decatting a normal one get you to the same place?
Granted it’s easier to get through an mot.