Green Griff 500 on eBay over the last week

[Shinyfings]

Anyone take a look at this? It was an auction and appeared to sell on Saturday for £20500 before appearing again with the same seller on Sunday for £28500 as a buy it now. Makes me wonder how may of the auction bids were real/.

[TR4man]

There has been some discussion about this car on social media. You may not be surprised to learn that the car isn’t all it is made out to be and that the seller is something of a chancer.

[Shinyfings]

That’s what I thought but wondered what exactly was going on as the top of the car looks smart in pictures. The underside looks to have masking paper and white spray paint in some images plus a dodgy looking garage in the background. I’m not about to buy it but was interested to hear if anyone had actually seen it in person.

[sixor8]

It's been listed on eBay as a classified and an auction at least twice previously. The only electronic MoT record is from October 2021. So it'd been off the road for over 15 years, seller states since 2004! No mention of new tyres so probably that age, at least.... Does look good in photos........

No underside photos on this listing:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234389547782?hash=item3...

Every time the top bidder is hopefully raising an issue if he fails to honour the sale. Enough bad markers will get his account suspended.

Edited by sixor8 on Tuesday 25th January 08:14

[Shinyfings]

Shame as at the right price it might be an okay car after a few thousand spent (probably quite a few - tyres. Fuel lines and perhaps outriggers to name a few things) I’d have taken a look at the start of the auction but smelt a rat and at £20500 (what is was meant to have sold for) it appears expensive Vs one with a warranty from a known trader. At £28500 it appears to be a seller who’s lost touch with reality.

[frontfloater]

The Ebay account appears to be one which he bought from a 3rd party - all the buyers' feedbacks older than 1 year are for non-car related products such as cosmetics, and one comment suggests that the seller account was previously called Posh Pooch.

Buying 3rd party accounts is forbidden by Ebay, but frequently done by novices wanting a ready-made good feedback record, or sellers who have had a previous account banned. For the latter, evading a ban by buying a replacement account is a serious violation of Ebay rules.

The Ebay list for this seller's completed listings shows that the Griff has already been sold twice via bidding auctions, and the Supra he has on sale has already been "sold" three times. Three of his other cars were sold twice over. Either he has been very unlucky with a series of non-paying bidders ; or he is using other accounts to make shill bids on his own items to bump up the final bid, but misjudging it and selling to himself. The latter would be another serious breach of Ebay selling rules. Or possibly there were genuine winning bidders but he refused to sell because he wanted a higher price ; but that would probably have shown up as negative feedbacks from those buyers by now.

Edited by frontfloater on Tuesday 25th January 17:46

Edited by frontfloater on Tuesday 25th January 17:55

[Shinyfings]

That’s interesting. I’m a big eBay user but hadn’t twigged that people sell accounts. Makes sense though. I wonder what his scam is though as continually listing an item and not actually selling it isn’t profitable unless he’s scamming people for deposits. I’ll keep watching but at least I was correct that something was up even though I wasn’t sure what. A bit like the time that I viewed a mint Focus ST2 that was actually used by a stunt drivers customers! Yes really. Took me a while to work out what didn’t add up on that one - nothing to do with eBay though.