T5 gearbox oil

T5 gearbox oil

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Aussie John

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1,021 posts

238 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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I have a new 5L container of Millers ATF from a previous car, It is labelled Millermatic ATF SP111. Is this ok for my T5?

BIG DUNC

1,918 posts

230 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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You here of ATF being used for the LT77 box in earlier cars, but I have not heard of it being used in the T5 box.

That said, I have not owned a T5 box car, so stand to be corrected if it is the thing to do.

Belle427

9,738 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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The T5 does use ATF but I can’t help on the spec you have there which looks like it’s for jap cars?
Personally I’d just buy some new stuff, its not expensive.

anonymous-user

61 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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BIG DUNC said:
You here of ATF being used for the LT77 box in earlier cars, but I have not heard of it being used in the T5 box.

That said, I have not owned a T5 box car, so stand to be corrected if it is the thing to do.
I’ve used royal purple in my T5s. Great stuff.

astonman

799 posts

217 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Use a quality Dexron 111, (mineral based ),nothing clever or synthetic.
The issue with the T5 generally,is you MUST NOT use anything too slippery as the " paper", friction surfaces that actually synchronise the gears need a level of friction to work ,also some modern fancy synthetics may actually dissolve the glue that bonds the" paper", surfaces onto the metal.
The T5 is a good box and it works ( surprisingly well), but it was built with cost as major issue ,so use the simple cheap " old fashioned", lubricant it was designed for.
Eg. Castrol dexron 111 multi vehicle.Normally less than £8 per litre ,in litre bottles.
If the Millers is NOT synthetic,but straight forward mineral based ATF,it should be fine.
In my opinion of course.



Edited by astonman on Tuesday 5th October 22:42


Edited by astonman on Tuesday 5th October 22:45

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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Royal purple was recommended by Grantura engineering. They understand the T5s foibles. smile

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 6th October 16:52

Belle427

9,738 posts

240 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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I've recently put Redline MTL in an LT77 after much research.
Another very good lubricant.

astonman

799 posts

217 months

Wednesday 6th October 2021
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I'd happily use Royal Purple fully synthetic ATF,in an automatic gearbox.Where all the temperature beating properties of this high tech product are beneficial.
However,I wouldn't use it in the T5 gearbox,even when recommended by such August persons.
I'd happily test it in someone else's gearbox though.

Belle427

9,738 posts

240 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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I'd have to agree with that, it was designed to run Atf from the start, the LT77 on the other hand wasn't.
I'd stick to mineral dexron 3 Atf changed regularly, you won't get any issues.
These discussions about oil will rage on forever.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

156 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Belle427 said:
I'd have to agree with that, it was designed to run Atf from the start, the LT77 on the other hand wasn't.
I'd stick to mineral dexron 3 Atf changed regularly, you won't get any issues.
These discussions about oil will rage on forever.
^^^^^^ this
Changed regularly being the important bit.
Depending how and where you drive, the box seriously heats up as can be displayed by the gear-lever often being very warm to touch.
Changing the oil well before it’s service mileage has resulted in my gearbox stick staying cool unless i’m hammering the car. It barely gets warm on a 100 mile run but I’ve changed the oil 3 times in 10 years and replaced the Dif which makes a huge difference to gearbox temps.. or it did on mine. One of the most noticeable differences in my car now to 10 years ago is that stick heat.
My box works better than it ever did and I think that’s all down to regular oil changes.
Same with the Diff

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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astonman said:
I'd happily use Royal Purple fully synthetic ATF,in an automatic gearbox.Where all the temperature beating properties of this high tech product are beneficial.
However,I wouldn't use it in the T5 gearbox,even when recommended by such August persons.
I'd happily test it in someone else's gearbox though.
Maybe should have been clearer. Royal Purple Synchromax, recommended for manual transmissions that specify a light viscosity oil, such as ATF. I have used in my race car and 331cc TVR M series road car with no issues and super slick shifts.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 7th October 09:24

DangerousDerek

8,669 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Ive been using royal purple in mine for a few years now and its still in 1 piece and i can still manage very quick gearchanges with minimal throttle lift.