Handling woes

Handling woes

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cammers

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396 posts

275 months

Sunday 29th September 2002
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My Griffith had it's service last week by David Batty. When I picked it up on Friday, it felt like a different car! The handling and performance was superb, and I was extremely pleased with the work done!
However David had informed me during the week that the rear tyres needed changing, so I went ahead and ordered a new set of S02's online!
The new tyres turned up on Friday after I had collected the car, so first thing Saturday I went to my local tyre fitters and had the tyres changed! I noticed a difference in the way the car drives and handles immediatly. I expected them to be a tad slippy for the first few miles, but it really does feel like the back end is on ice! The tyres were over inflated, so letting them down to the correct pressures has improved things slightly! Still I am not happy though!
Round corners, it feels like the back is stepping out. I dont think it actually IS stepping out, it just feels like it! At speed in a straight line it feels very twitchy!
I don't really know what to do about it. Is it just that the tyres need to be worn in, or is it more likely to be something to do with the service?
Anyone had any similar symptoms, or got any advice?

Mark

apache

39,731 posts

291 months

Sunday 29th September 2002
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Where did you find SO 2's?

cammers

Original Poster:

396 posts

275 months

Sunday 29th September 2002
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Got them from Tyres4u.com for £126.20 + vat each!

VictorMeldrew

8,293 posts

284 months

Sunday 29th September 2002
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I'm finding the same thing, but wasn't sure if it was just my bottle going! I don't feel like I can tell if the back end is stuck or not - which doesn't inspire confidence!! (I know how quickly they can go, and want all the warning I can get).

GreenV8S

30,484 posts

291 months

Sunday 29th September 2002
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My Griffith had it's service last week by David Batty. When I picked it up on Friday, it felt like a different car! The handling and performance was superb, and I was extremely pleased with the work done!
However David had informed me during the week that the rear tyres needed changing, so I went ahead and ordered a new set of S02's online!
The new tyres turned up on Friday after I had collected the car, so first thing Saturday I went to my local tyre fitters and had the tyres changed! I noticed a difference in the way the car drives and handles immediatly. I expected them to be a tad slippy for the first few miles, but it really does feel like the back end is on ice! The tyres were over inflated, so letting them down to the correct pressures has improved things slightly! Still I am not happy though!
Round corners, it feels like the back is stepping out. I dont think it actually IS stepping out, it just feels like it! At speed in a straight line it feels very twitchy!
I don't really know what to do about it. Is it just that the tyres need to be worn in, or is it more likely to be something to do with the service?
Anyone had any similar symptoms, or got any advice?

Mark



New tyres are always extremely slippery for the first few miles until the release compound has been scrubbed off. Also, new tyres start off with a soft tread compound and need to be cured. The soft compound will make the tyre squirm a lot, it feels like they slide at the smallest provocation, in fact it is just the tread blocks distorting. This effect can be particularly noticeable if you mix well worn tyres with brand new ones and then throw the car around. Curing is just a matter of driving the car hard enough to get the tyres warm and then letting them cool off. I just mean pushing the tyres under firm cornering and braking, not doing donuts or smoking the tyres. Also, if you're mixing old a new tyres, it helps to run the new tyres one PSI or so lower than normal, this increases the contact patch area and reduces the stress on the tread so it deflects less.

Give them time, they'll soon improve.

Cheers,
Peter Humphries (and a green V8S)

jodypress

1,940 posts

281 months

Sunday 29th September 2002
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i have had similar, fitters way over inflating. i also recomend keeping an eye on the fronts as mine were 1psi under (21psi) and front felt twitchy at speed. inflated to 22psi and car feels transformed. are griffs that sensitive to tyre pressures?

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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i have had similar, fitters way over inflating. i also recomend keeping an eye on the fronts as mine were 1psi under (21psi) and front felt twitchy at speed. inflated to 22psi and car feels transformed. are griffs that sensitive to tyre pressures?




No they are worse....

Steve

joospeed

4,473 posts

285 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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My Griffith had it's service last week by David Batty. etc

..I don't really know what to do about it. Is it just that the tyres need to be worn in, or is it more likely to be something to do with the service?
Anyone had any similar symptoms, or got any advice?

Mark



I'd go with what Peter "green v8s" humphries says. I've only ever heard great stuff about Dave Batty and you did say that before the tyres were fitted it was going great. I'd blame the tyres but give them a chance to come back to you like Peter says.

cammers

Original Poster:

396 posts

275 months

Monday 30th September 2002
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Ok guys, some good advice here! Thanks everyone!

mel

10,168 posts

282 months

Tuesday 1st October 2002
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Its always worked on bike tyres so I see no reason why car tyres should be different the slipperyness of new tyres is caused by the mould release agent used in the manufacturing process a good squirt and wipe of clutch and break cleaner takes this off a treat and cuts down the "running in" period to a fraction of what it was.