VAG TDi engine

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Muncher

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12,219 posts

254 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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Just a quick question, are the various TDi engines as found in the Golf, Passat etc all the same but just chipped to varying levels, or are they mechanically different?

edc

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256 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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I think they're all the same but some of the ancillary bits such as air filters may be different for packaging reasons.

Muncher

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Monday 8th March 2004
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So even the 110bhp engine could be chipped to 210bhp?

edc

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Monday 8th March 2004
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Muncher said:
So even the 110bhp engine could be chipped to 210bhp?


No it can't.

I though you meant is the 130PD the same as in an Ibiza as in a Golf as in a Passat. AFAIK the 130 and 150 are the same unit with different boost. 100 is PD but 110 is not (?)

Also thought that most tuners get up to 200bhp from the 150, a fraction more with a few other mods. The 130 is a fraction behind the 150.

Muncher

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Monday 8th March 2004
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So a 130 can be chipped to a similar level as the 150 can?

I assume the chipping just ups the boost anyway?

edc

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Monday 8th March 2004
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Muncher said:
So a 130 can be chipped to a similar level as the 150 can?

I assume the chipping just ups the boost anyway?


Yes, from all the RR plots I've seen. I believe the 150 just wind up more boost over the 130, which some say makes it a bit more laggy and less driveable.

agent006

12,058 posts

269 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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90 and 100 are old designs. 110, 130 and 150 are the same engine. Anything much over this (180) will probably be a v6.

edc

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Monday 8th March 2004
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agent006 said:
90 and 100 are old designs. 110, 130 and 150 are the same engine. Anything much over this (180) will probably be a v6.


Nah, 100 is a PD engine and 110 is not. 110 is the older design. There is the 2.5 6 too, but I've not seen any chipped plots for this.

DustyC

12,820 posts

259 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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I see where you are coming from Muncher and have often thought the same.

Each engine is the same capacity so what do they actually change to increase the power?

I have the lowliest 90 and was gonna get it chipped but have decided it is more than enough for me as its only my commuter car and I find it has all the overtaking power I need for the 90 mile daily run.
(actually, its my only car at the moment!).

I find the low down torque incredible and having driven petrols since I really think I will now always buy diesels for my commuter car.

Although its only 90 BHP its also an incredible 200 lbft of torque which for the money (under £4K) probably cant be had with anything else of the same age (97).

Whilst waiting to over take I generally sit on about 2300RPM and then need no downchange for a quick, quiet and safe overtake.

I know its no performance car and doesnt even warrant comparing to any petrol hot hatch but for commuting its perfect.

Oh, and I drive it 500 miles a week like a loony on my favorite roads and still get 50MPG.

definition:
loony: a safe driver who stays within the boundries of the law and exagertates their mileage.
the above statement is for my insurance company!

DustyC

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259 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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opps, got a bit carried away there!

The VAG diesels are suprisingly good though. Im definitly going for the 150 Golf next.
Unless the japs start produce hot hatch diesels.

edc

9,293 posts

256 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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They do a Leon Cupra 150PD already.

DustyC

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Monday 8th March 2004
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Yeah but you hear too many stories of Cupras in these areas!

edc

9,293 posts

256 months

Monday 8th March 2004
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The next Ibiza sporty hatch variant is rumoured to have this unit too.

DustyC

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259 months

Tuesday 9th March 2004
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I read that somewhere too.
Sounds interesting as the Seats are usually lighter than their VW cousins.

mogul

15,138 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th March 2004
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I own an 8 month old 996 C2 cab and a 3 month old Golf 150 TD GTi. I have done 7000 miles so far in the golf wacking the backside out of it, on one journey travelling from Sunderland to south of Horsham, then to Stanstead Airport and back home south of Horsham and still had fuel left- near on 650 miles! The golf is a great car to drive, more comfortable than the Porsche and uses bugger all fuel. You can't beat the sheer pace of the 996 or the fun of it, but most days I take the Golf. You'll have to go a long way to get better value for money I think.

>> Edited by mogul on Friday 12th March 12:36

cobstar

122 posts

258 months

Friday 12th March 2004
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edc said:
The next Ibiza sporty hatch variant is rumoured to have this unit too.


The current Ibiza Sport 130 PD is pretty good already - the 150 PD unit should be enormous fun

DustyC

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259 months

Friday 12th March 2004
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mogul said:
I own an 8 month old 996 C2 cab and a 3 month old Golf 150 TD GTi. I have done 7000 in the golf wacking the backside out of it, on one journey travelling from Sunderland to south of Horsham, then to Stanstead Airport and back home south of Horsham and still had fuel left- near on 650 miles! The golf is a great car to drive, more comfortable than the Porsche and uses bugger all fuel. You can't beat the sheer pace of the 996 or the fun of it, but most days I take the Golf. You'll have to go a long way to get better value for money I think.


Great review!
Im so impressed with my Golf 90 TDi that I already know Im going for the 150 as soon as i have worn this one out!
(I'll be doing 25,000 miles a year so may as well run this one into the ground first, if thats possible with a VW diesel!).

herbie hammer

682 posts

271 months

Tuesday 16th March 2004
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I've got the 115pd in my Bora Sport - I drive 25000 plus miles a year in it and it goes like clappers (within speed limits of course) and like DustyC, I get over 50 mpg every time.

The only problem I have had was an occasional loss of power which after a number of visits to the very friendly local VW garage in Andover, got sorted when they put a new turbo in (Under warranty thankfully)

On sunny days like this though, I wish I had brought the Chimaera to work!

HH.

Muncher

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12,219 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th March 2004
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I went to the VW dealership to try one, and they said I had to be 23 to test drive a Golf TDi 150!

Cheerio then!

DustyC

12,820 posts

259 months

Sunday 21st March 2004
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Having just had a big service mine now feels even better than before.
The maechanic also said lots of good things about getting it chipped so am trying to decide if I should spend the £400 for the upgrade.