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S-lines have 18 inch wheels and I think different suspension (firmer/lower a smidge) - could be wrong. They've also got different headlight backing colours (wow).
Get a 225 and they're all pretty similar. Many have been chipped. Check they've been looked after and check your insurance (in fact, check you insurance anyway - they're not cheap to insure).
Avoid ex-company cars with 20k service intervals (variable). Go for 10k serviced private cars IMO. Reason? Most main stealers put mineral (or at least not the right synthetic) oil into rep mobiles. I know this because I have been asked at 2 dealers what oil I want - when I replied that surely this engine would warrant fully synthetic etc. etc. the service guys responded that they put cheap stuff in lease cars 'cos they're not paid for more. Probably not 100% true everywhere, but it scared me.
Get a 225 and they're all pretty similar. Many have been chipped. Check they've been looked after and check your insurance (in fact, check you insurance anyway - they're not cheap to insure).
Avoid ex-company cars with 20k service intervals (variable). Go for 10k serviced private cars IMO. Reason? Most main stealers put mineral (or at least not the right synthetic) oil into rep mobiles. I know this because I have been asked at 2 dealers what oil I want - when I replied that surely this engine would warrant fully synthetic etc. etc. the service guys responded that they put cheap stuff in lease cars 'cos they're not paid for more. Probably not 100% true everywhere, but it scared me.
No idea about sprint times but APR or Revo will take you to circa 280 bhp ish and a corresponding rise in torque. These are some of the options if you want the stealthy-dealer-can't-see-it approach. A more customisd job may be sought from AMD or Jabba. If you want to see some chat on the transformation just ask anyone on some of the other VAG forums what a chip did to their 210/225 1.8T - they both seem to produce the same end result.
A std chip upgrade to a 225TT gives around 265hp and a corresponding increase in torque. A chipped TT (to this level) will still be slower than a Chimaera 4.0L, but with 4WD and lots of ESP toys you'll be able to drive it quicker and near the limit more easily.
Not that the TT could ever replace a TVR, but they ain't bad cars.
All 225s have 17 inch wheels at least. Cheaper rubber than 18s and nicer ride IMO.
Not that the TT could ever replace a TVR, but they ain't bad cars.
All 225s have 17 inch wheels at least. Cheaper rubber than 18s and nicer ride IMO.
TTs less that 18 months old have 18 inch wheels (and lowered suspension), older 225s have 17 inchers. The S-Line was a ltd edition offering for around £3k extra but then a lot of buyers got p*ssed off when that spec became the standard one in 2002.
As mentioned above remap will get around 265-270 with torque going up to around 280. Milltek exhaust is also a favourite with many as when the pipe goes under the rear axle its is kinked to keep ground clearance the same - frees a little bit of torque.
As mentioned above remap will get around 265-270 with torque going up to around 280. Milltek exhaust is also a favourite with many as when the pipe goes under the rear axle its is kinked to keep ground clearance the same - frees a little bit of torque.
No is the answer, although the difference will be very slight between a chipped 180 and a std 225 - not really noticeable on the road in other words. From memory BHP is down but torque is higher.
The 225 has a bigger turbo and 2 intercoolers along with some different internals to cope. Chip that and the difference (between the 2 chipped cars) will be greater than it was at standard.
Then there's the twin pipe envy!
>> Edited by Gren on Monday 10th November 13:22
The 225 has a bigger turbo and 2 intercoolers along with some different internals to cope. Chip that and the difference (between the 2 chipped cars) will be greater than it was at standard.
Then there's the twin pipe envy!
>> Edited by Gren on Monday 10th November 13:22
I think (but not 100% sure) that ABT chips are Audi approved. Not cheap tho...
www.abt-sportsline.de
www.abt-sportsline.de
No chips/remaps are Audi approved and non carry an Audi UK warranty. The ABT chip is excluded from the rest of the range when it comes to warranty.
Some dealers will act as agents for tuners (Wayside in Milton Keynes do this with AmD) and will usually offer their own warranty with this. You are then tied to this dealer though.
On the other hand, I've never herard of many problems from a remap alone. Always have a pre and post rolling road session though as this may pick up any problems.
Some dealers will act as agents for tuners (Wayside in Milton Keynes do this with AmD) and will usually offer their own warranty with this. You are then tied to this dealer though.
On the other hand, I've never herard of many problems from a remap alone. Always have a pre and post rolling road session though as this may pick up any problems.
In short no, some companies re-map the existing ecu. While others change the chip and give you the standard one. I wouldn't fancy tinkering with the ecu!
As long as you don't try and run silly power the 225 block is good for 260-280 bhp reliably. A little controversial, but I wouldn't change the air filter on any of the VAG 1.8T engines. It seems to
up the idle and if it doesn't screw that up it will take your airflow meter out. There expensive!
I would steer well clear of modifying the 180 model, without major work you can realistically only expect 220 bhp reliably. Besides, you would only have one exhaust on the 180
Someone once told me that buying a 180 bhp TT is like going out with a girl and fancying her sister, read that as you will 
If you do go for it, recommend you go to a tuner that sets your individual car up for the re-map (such as jabba). Some people just wack the chip in and go. Which just doesn't seem right to me.
As long as you don't try and run silly power the 225 block is good for 260-280 bhp reliably. A little controversial, but I wouldn't change the air filter on any of the VAG 1.8T engines. It seems to
up the idle and if it doesn't screw that up it will take your airflow meter out. There expensive! I would steer well clear of modifying the 180 model, without major work you can realistically only expect 220 bhp reliably. Besides, you would only have one exhaust on the 180
Someone once told me that buying a 180 bhp TT is like going out with a girl and fancying her sister, read that as you will If you do go for it, recommend you go to a tuner that sets your individual car up for the re-map (such as jabba). Some people just wack the chip in and go. Which just doesn't seem right to me.
Agree with all the above - remaps are a good route, induction kits/filters can screw up your air mass meter.
Apparently any remap can always be found even one of the serial port jobbies - the code can be found as it's downloaded onto a spare portion of the ECU (I don't think that when you switch it to standard/valet that it disappears from the chip). A straight chip swap is easy as it's in a box with tamper evident seals.
Apparently any remap can always be found even one of the serial port jobbies - the code can be found as it's downloaded onto a spare portion of the ECU (I don't think that when you switch it to standard/valet that it disappears from the chip). A straight chip swap is easy as it's in a box with tamper evident seals.
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