1.9 TDI - Highest mileage?
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Highest I can see on A.T. is 212k and still running fine it has 21 service stamps.... lol and its a 4 year old car.
I know someone who travells near on 120k a year yep thats 510 miles per working day on average.... assuming that it has no use weekends or holidays. Or on ave 330 miles 7 days a week every week.
I know someone who travells near on 120k a year yep thats 510 miles per working day on average.... assuming that it has no use weekends or holidays. Or on ave 330 miles 7 days a week every week.
The secret is not to remap them and regular servicing simple really and given the VAG's solid body all that should need changing is clutch/cambelt/shocks/discs/ads/maybe springs/exhaust/glowplugs thats about it. And really you only NEED to change the springs & shocks if they are MOT failure items.
Concerns - well in std from the car has been driven millions of miles during the R&D state and as such everything the tollerences are there to achieve those milages.
Remapping decreases the tolerences, puts more stress on the turbo, gearbox, clutch engine, engine mounts drive shafts and tyres.
Look at the big v8 5ltr pushrod Us cars pushing out a mere 200bhp they are lazy engines which will go on forever the more stress on an engine the less time & less miles it will last.
Look at dragsters takes it to the extreme they need a rebuild after nearly every run F1 cars need rebuilds after 400 miles - how often does a locomotive/firggot engine need total rebuilds?
Ive seen on some forums that the advice to "save your clutch" is to not floor the throttle until you reach xxrpms as otherwise you will have clutch slip... solution is clearly to fit an uprated clutch however then you also have the issue of what the torque rating of the gearbox is and also the torque rating of the drive shafts.
Remapping decreases the tolerences, puts more stress on the turbo, gearbox, clutch engine, engine mounts drive shafts and tyres.
Look at the big v8 5ltr pushrod Us cars pushing out a mere 200bhp they are lazy engines which will go on forever the more stress on an engine the less time & less miles it will last.
Look at dragsters takes it to the extreme they need a rebuild after nearly every run F1 cars need rebuilds after 400 miles - how often does a locomotive/firggot engine need total rebuilds?
Ive seen on some forums that the advice to "save your clutch" is to not floor the throttle until you reach xxrpms as otherwise you will have clutch slip... solution is clearly to fit an uprated clutch however then you also have the issue of what the torque rating of the gearbox is and also the torque rating of the drive shafts.
Welshbeef said:
Remapping decreases the tolerences, puts more stress on the turbo, gearbox, clutch engine, engine mounts drive shafts and tyres.
Would the cltuch form 'part of the engine' though? As far as Im aware, the engine is fairly bullet proof (330bhp plus easily on standard internals) so a simple remap shouldnt push it too far. Admittedly there are numerous incarnations of the 1.9tdi, and I dont know the ins and outs for each one.Clutch is an issue even standard cars can suffer with. Uprated clutch and a remap alone shouldnt cause the premature death of the engine. I guess it depends on who you get to remap, (Im sure 'decent tuners' build tollerances into their maps also, and how well you look after the car. Mine can get a fair bit of stick, but it has its oil changed and checked more than 99% of 1.9tdi's out there. Does that still mean it wont last as long as the average?
Just think its a bit of a broad statement saying remapping will decrease the life of an engine. Im going to run mine for a long while yet, or till it dies... so hopefully you'll hear from me in a good few years
(and not next week on the side of the M25).Thing is though lets say ave remap is around £500, then really you need a new clutch parts & labour what say £600 then insurance increase but so far a min of £1100. Thats a significant cost on a lot of the 1.9 TDI VAGs now there are not many in the VW/Seat/Skoda above the £10k asking price area which means its going to be a not far off min 20% of purchase price modification.
Also say you bought a Kia Ceed 1.6CRDI 115LS and remapped that instantly your losing the 10 year warranty thats one of the reasons why the car would be purchased in the first place.
Id love in to remap one myself but the worry of things going wrong and the associated potential costs are too much for me.
Also say you bought a Kia Ceed 1.6CRDI 115LS and remapped that instantly your losing the 10 year warranty thats one of the reasons why the car would be purchased in the first place.
Id love in to remap one myself but the worry of things going wrong and the associated potential costs are too much for me.
Welshbeef said:
Id love in to remap one myself but the worry of things going wrong and the associated potential costs are too much for me.
I understand what you are saying (and I cant comment on the Kia reliability), but I know of 1.9 and 2.0 VAG tdi's running Nos, Propane and water injection all together, with big turbo's being reliable. So I cant say a remap will knacker the engine. I know there is a risk, but there is always a risk.Needing a new clutch depends on what your remapping. If its one of the 110bhp ones, doubt you'd need a clutch for a fair while. Mine lasted 45k on its standard clutch, and was only replaced as I got fed up of it slipping (those 45k was basically serveral trackdays, many santa pod full attack launchs, standing traffic in London for hours, and several Kent to Dundee drives non stop, so its covered all the bases in its life). Has it ever missed a beat?? Not even a hint. Things that have been replaced are due to trackdays (such as top mounts, drop links, etc). The engine is as sweet as a nut, and happily revs to 5k.
I was nervous to remap it at 1st, as it is my only car, and Im 100% reliant on it for work, but i've not looked back
I believe that “miles” the high miler Skoda Octavia and the recent stopgap Audi A4 purchased for £200 on youtube channel Car Throttle are both examples of the durability of the 1.9 TDI. The Audi has over 500,000 miles on it. The skoda isn’t far behind, either.
I sold my golf mk 4 PD130 with 180,000 on it, and according to the MOT history online, it’s still going and has nearly topped 200k. The engine was perfect. The rest of the car, not so much!
I sold my golf mk 4 PD130 with 180,000 on it, and according to the MOT history online, it’s still going and has nearly topped 200k. The engine was perfect. The rest of the car, not so much!
My daily commuter and family weekend car is a 19 year old A4 with AVB 1.9pd Tdi - 268,000 miles and running sweet, never skipped a beat. It has lots of receipts going back to the day it was bought new at the dealers, and it seems all it's had for the engine is a reconditioned turbo about half way through it's life. No sign of a new clutch being fitted ever, seems odd to not have the receipt if it did have one done, given everything else has been documented from 3 previous owners.
As above, these engines are very capable of 300k without any major work, and a few examples of 500k being achieved by taxis etc. Hoping mine will reach its next milestone of 300k. Treated it to a timing belt kit at 266k and I do oil changes every 5k now to give her the best chance. Well worth it for such an enjoyable car to drive. Puts a lot of modern cars to shame. Just no good if you need to go into a LEZ city! I live in rural countryside.
As above, these engines are very capable of 300k without any major work, and a few examples of 500k being achieved by taxis etc. Hoping mine will reach its next milestone of 300k. Treated it to a timing belt kit at 266k and I do oil changes every 5k now to give her the best chance. Well worth it for such an enjoyable car to drive. Puts a lot of modern cars to shame. Just no good if you need to go into a LEZ city! I live in rural countryside.
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