R32 Manual or DSG

[ben lizard]

Hello Everbody ,

been offered a R32 , feb o7 on a 56 with 400miles on the clock , it's full leather with sat nav and the wing back seats , dealer wants 27.5k which seems reasonable but it's a manual and i had wanted a dsg .

Is the dsg better or worse or does really not matter that much.

I only plan to keep it a year anyway and the dealer reckon's it's 5k under book

should the question is should I just do and stop whining !

cheers

Sean

[nickb55]

I recently tried both, and was very impressed with the DSG. I bought one a few weeks ago, and it's even better than i thought it was going to be. I nearly didnt test the DSG as some of the reviews say its not as invloving and/or its not smooth around town. Having driven it a fair bit now, i've found it to be excellent around town, both in terms of smothness and also general comfort. It feels like a high quality auto car (unlike the "SMG" version on the M3, which i never liked). In manual mode, it's great fun with the paddles, and exactly as tho it were a manual, ie no overiding unless u hit the limiter. In sport mode, am still getting used to trusting it, but i've started to use that rather than manual when caning it round the lanes.

Bottom line, i would definately go for the DSG, despite the fact that i've always preffered manual (sports) cars.

cheers
Nick

[nickb55]

27.5k is a good price. Just check that it's not an import. I had a choice of 2 (as i wanted one straight away, and in DBP with 3drs), oct 05 with 11k or dec06 with 1k miles. I went for the Dec06, as it was only 500 quid more (which struck me at the time as strangely cheap...) , but when i later realised it was an import (the VW dealer never told me), i changed my mind, and bought the older one. Am sure there's no diff , but like u i dont keep cars for long, and don't want any agro when i come to sell it.

[ben lizard]

cheers for the reply nick

I don't think was car through the VW route but some other way

here is the spec
Jan 2007 56 5 Doors, Manual 6 speed, Hatchback, Petrol, 490 miles, Me Deep Blue Metallic, 1 Owner. Colour Screen Sat Nav, Optional Recaro Sports Seats, ABS, Adjustable steering column/wheel, Computer, Driver airbag, Electric windows, Head restraints, Headlight washers, Folding rear seats, Lumbar support, Immobiliser, Passenger airbag, Power assisted steering, Rear armrest, Remote locking, Side airbags, Radio/CD, Rear headrests, Traction control, 18" Double Spoke Alloys, Aluminium Dash Inlay, Auto Dim Rear View Mirror, Bal Of Manf Warranty, Black Leather Upholstery, central doorlocks with remote control, Dual Climate Control, Electric Adj Heated Door Mirrors, UK Supplied, Xenon Headlamps, CD Multichanger, Heated seats, Navigation system. Insurance Group:18, Delivery Mileage Vehicle with Sat Nav (1850) and Heated Leather Recaro Sports Seats (2900) List price inc.extras over 30k great saving at only 27495 or 26995 for N.T.I.

going to have a look on sat morning

[kmpowell]

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Edited by kmpowell on Wednesday 16th May 11:44

[Thorny]

Very similar spec to our GTI which I bought imported. DSG is excellent IMO - very smooth round town and great on the open road too. Would highly recommend it!

[ben lizard]

Kevin ,

no harm in a bit of plugging !

It would have been the sort of thing i was looking for if this one hadn't popped up .

i may still give you a call !

[niffty951]

Genuinely honest oppinion I was very glad I bought mine in manual. If you drive the car hard DSG will annoy the hell out of you. If you want to break traction you'd have to drive like a total loon! In the manual you can just break late into a corner, toe and heel to add some revs as you change down and drop the clutch... Voila instant sideways action. Keep your foot burried in the throttle in 2nd and you will understand just what the R32 was built for:-) In a DSG you have to wait till it snows to have that sort of fun Wouldn't go DSG for the even if the DSG car cost half as much as the manual. Honestly it ruins the car that much!

Regards,

Ben

[treacle]

DSG all the way.

Just recently bought an Edition 30 GTI.

Have been a manual man to date and have been also lucky enough to try SMG and the 430 spider F1 gearbox which i hated.

The DSG is amazing in comparison. For me it brings in a whole new aspect to the driving experience. Granted you won't be able to have tail happy fun so easily, but I dont do that 95% of the time anyway. For a car in traffic its great, but also fun on the open road.

[kmpowell]

ben lizard said:

Kevin ,

no harm in a bit of plugging !

It would have been the sort of thing i was looking for if this one hadn't popped up .

i may still give you a call !

No problem Ben, hopefully i'll be hearing from you.

DSG has 'novelty' factor, and then once the novelty factor wears off you either love it or hate it. DSG has quite a few faults e.g hesitation, rough and bumpy in slow traffic etc, so make sure you get an extensive test drive if you do decide to go down that route.

[nickb55]

niffty951 said:

Genuinely honest oppinion I was very glad I bought mine in manual. If you drive the car hard DSG will annoy the hell out of you. If you want to break traction you'd have to drive like a total loon! In the manual you can just break late into a corner, toe and heel to add some revs as you change down and drop the clutch... Voila instant sideways action. Keep your foot burried in the throttle in 2nd and you will understand just what the R32 was built for:-) In a DSG you have to wait till it snows to have that sort of fun Wouldn't go DSG for the even if the DSG car cost half as much as the manual. Honestly it ruins the car that much!

Regards,

Ben

Completely agree if you're going to track it, and/or you're an exceptionally good driver. However, for blasting around country lanes, traction is exactly what you do want. This is why i've fond the r32 more fun than any of my prvious cars (inc 2 M3's and 3 911's). "Sideways action" is fine if you want to end up in a hedge. The r32 has also convinced me of the merits of 4wd, having never had one before (again, ideal if you need all the help u can get, not so if you're good enough to control it without). Next up for me will be an rs4 (unfortunatley w/out dsg).