Info on Audi coupe & different models / History please.
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Hi All, I'd like to know a bit more about the different models and history of the Audi coupe as I'm thinking of possibly buying one in the near future.
I'm interested in the different models and engines, interiors and drivetrains from about 91 onwards, I hope to buy a good reliable car, (possibly with aircon) that will be fairly reasonable cost wise and a bit of fun as well (I used to have an audi 80 1991 a couple of years ago.)
A quattro would be high on my list but i believe there are a couple of variants of the layout or centre diff?, as far as engines go there seems to be no shortage of different configurations, as far as I can see 2 litre 8 and 16 valve, 5 cylinder 10 and 20 valve, and I think the later cars had 2.6 or 2.8 V6?.
Can anybody tell me the best one to go for, I think the 2 litre will be a little underpowered for me though, if my wifes subaru forester is anything to go by (does the 4 wheel drive system make a big difference to economy and do they go wrong?).
Any info on what to look for and what to avoid would be really appreciated.
Andy
I'm interested in the different models and engines, interiors and drivetrains from about 91 onwards, I hope to buy a good reliable car, (possibly with aircon) that will be fairly reasonable cost wise and a bit of fun as well (I used to have an audi 80 1991 a couple of years ago.)
A quattro would be high on my list but i believe there are a couple of variants of the layout or centre diff?, as far as engines go there seems to be no shortage of different configurations, as far as I can see 2 litre 8 and 16 valve, 5 cylinder 10 and 20 valve, and I think the later cars had 2.6 or 2.8 V6?.
Can anybody tell me the best one to go for, I think the 2 litre will be a little underpowered for me though, if my wifes subaru forester is anything to go by (does the 4 wheel drive system make a big difference to economy and do they go wrong?).
Any info on what to look for and what to avoid would be really appreciated.
Andy
I can't give you the exact dates but I can give you rough dates of each model..
2.2 5 cylinder 10v began production in late 88 and I believe it was available in both front wheel drive and four wheel drive.
2.2 5 cylinder 20v is the same as above
2.0 4 cylinder start production in 1989. This particular variant was only an 8 valve model pushing out 115bhp (straight from the 8v gti) and was only available in front wheel drive and is underpowered. (I have one)
2.3 20v began production in 89/90. This had 170bhp as standard and is pretty quick to be honest. Its available in both quattro and front wheel drive but its extremely rare to find one with aircon/leather that has the quattro system.
2.3 10v is similiar to the above but with less horsepower.
2.0 4 cyliner 16v. I *think* this was available from around 93 and it uses the GTi 16v lump. It pushed out 140bhp and was only available in front wheel drive.
2.6 V6. This is the economical V6 as it only had 150bhp. It was available from around 93 (roughly) and was available in front wheel drive and perhaps quattro.
2.8 V6. Same power as the 2.3 20v practically and was available in quattro and front wheel drive.
Apparently the V6's were prone to a few suspensions problems but I cant really vouch for that personally.
If you fancy a 'fun' coupe variant then why not check out an S2? 2.2 5 cylinder 20v turbo, straight out the box they offer 220/230 bhp and 5.7 seconds 0-60. However if you are looking for something cheap to run, then I would not advise the S2.
Both 2.0's will be pretty economical and reliable to you, although the 16v will have abit more power. The 5 cylinder models sound superb and my pick of the 5 cylinder bunch would be the 2.3 20v as its pretty quick and smooth.
As far as I am aware, the 2.6 v6 is much much slower than the 2.8, however it is much more economical and newer than the 2.8 and it will have a very smooth delivery but won't be rapid.
I think I have managed to type alot without realising....although whether it makes sense or not is another matter!
2.2 5 cylinder 10v began production in late 88 and I believe it was available in both front wheel drive and four wheel drive.
2.2 5 cylinder 20v is the same as above
2.0 4 cylinder start production in 1989. This particular variant was only an 8 valve model pushing out 115bhp (straight from the 8v gti) and was only available in front wheel drive and is underpowered. (I have one)
2.3 20v began production in 89/90. This had 170bhp as standard and is pretty quick to be honest. Its available in both quattro and front wheel drive but its extremely rare to find one with aircon/leather that has the quattro system.
2.3 10v is similiar to the above but with less horsepower.
2.0 4 cyliner 16v. I *think* this was available from around 93 and it uses the GTi 16v lump. It pushed out 140bhp and was only available in front wheel drive.
2.6 V6. This is the economical V6 as it only had 150bhp. It was available from around 93 (roughly) and was available in front wheel drive and perhaps quattro.
2.8 V6. Same power as the 2.3 20v practically and was available in quattro and front wheel drive.
Apparently the V6's were prone to a few suspensions problems but I cant really vouch for that personally.
If you fancy a 'fun' coupe variant then why not check out an S2? 2.2 5 cylinder 20v turbo, straight out the box they offer 220/230 bhp and 5.7 seconds 0-60. However if you are looking for something cheap to run, then I would not advise the S2.
Both 2.0's will be pretty economical and reliable to you, although the 16v will have abit more power. The 5 cylinder models sound superb and my pick of the 5 cylinder bunch would be the 2.3 20v as its pretty quick and smooth.
As far as I am aware, the 2.6 v6 is much much slower than the 2.8, however it is much more economical and newer than the 2.8 and it will have a very smooth delivery but won't be rapid.
I think I have managed to type alot without realising....although whether it makes sense or not is another matter!
One problem that has been consistent between the two coupes I have owned is a leaky rear tailgate and light clusters. The fix is pretty simple, fit a new rubber seal around the tailgate and re-seal the rear light clusters! 
Other than that they have both been bomb proof.
Oh and just for reference, the quattro systems will increase fuel consumption but it is definatly worth it, the car just feels completely sure footed with it. The diffs do become slack with old age but by fitting new bushes the play is almost un-noticeable but having said that parts are relatively easy to source and I assume replace.
If you werent in the frozen north I would offer to take you out in both of them to show you the differene...
Other than that they have both been bomb proof.
Oh and just for reference, the quattro systems will increase fuel consumption but it is definatly worth it, the car just feels completely sure footed with it. The diffs do become slack with old age but by fitting new bushes the play is almost un-noticeable but having said that parts are relatively easy to source and I assume replace.
If you werent in the frozen north I would offer to take you out in both of them to show you the differene...
I would go for a 5 pot.
Though I think the earlier 2.2 10v and 20v cars are prefered to the later 2.3 10v and 20v car as they've not got a Cat and an ECU.
The earlier 2.2's used the famously reliable Bosch K Jet injection system.
We've got a 2.6 A4. It's a little lazy to be honest. We did have an Audi 90 2.2 before this and that went much better.
And the noise! Dear God we miss the noise!
Though I think the earlier 2.2 10v and 20v cars are prefered to the later 2.3 10v and 20v car as they've not got a Cat and an ECU.
The earlier 2.2's used the famously reliable Bosch K Jet injection system.
We've got a 2.6 A4. It's a little lazy to be honest. We did have an Audi 90 2.2 before this and that went much better.
And the noise! Dear God we miss the noise!
Its worth mentioning that the 5 and 6 pot cars do feel different so it depends on your driving style and preferences. The 20V 5 pot is powerful and sounds great but does need revs. The V6s are more lazy but less hard work.
The other factor is that the V6s are newer and there are more of them about. Decent 20Vs are getting very rare.
Nice cars all.
PS Im with Robatron on S2s. The 230bhp turbo remains an outstanding engine even today. Keep getting tempted to get another one when I look at the prices......
The other factor is that the V6s are newer and there are more of them about. Decent 20Vs are getting very rare.
Nice cars all.
PS Im with Robatron on S2s. The 230bhp turbo remains an outstanding engine even today. Keep getting tempted to get another one when I look at the prices......
phlap said:
PS Im with Robatron on S2s. The 230bhp turbo remains an outstanding engine even today. Keep getting tempted to get another one when I look at the prices......
You know you want to!
They really have fallen out of bed in price so you get a good turn of performance for your money with these cars,as you know!
Andy, if you find a good one you will love it. Some of the earlier 2.3 20v's have tubular manifolds and push a but more power than stated. Personally given the small price hyke you could get yourself a nice S2, but running costs would be slightly higher.
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