Golf mk4 'GTI' 2.0...

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StevenJJ

Original Poster:

541 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th January 2007
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So... are they really *that* bad?

My current car is a mk3 VR6 and prior to that I had a mk3 GTI 8v which was slow. I do fancy some mk4 action though just to lard about in in relative comfort, plus they look damn good on 18s

Are the 2.0 8v's really that bad? The mk3 was weird with the Digifant injection, really lurchy and surgy, is that 'characteristic' still present? Yes I know they're rebadged normal models and the turbos/diesels are way out of my price bracket (for a decent mileage example). Any horror stories/reassurances?


Note: I was looking for a mk2 (same as some bods on here) but have given up due to the amount of dogs for sale at crazy money, I just don't have the time anymore to get something in smart condition.

Andy_T

36 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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I have a Bora which has the same engine, but of course not the GTi badge.

To be honest, i'd look elsewhere if you want something fast and comfortable. Sure it will be comforatable, but when you regularly get covered in smoke from various TDI's, it starts getting to you a bit.

The engine only produces 113-115bhp, and little more in the way of torque, 125lb/ft if i remember correctly.

I was in a similar situation as you, wanted a TDI but in my budget at the time they had too many miles on them. Have you considered a Polo or Ibiza TDI? 75bhp, but easily tunable.

LaSarthe&Back

2,084 posts

218 months

Wednesday 31st January 2007
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Get the 1.8T plain and simple. Buy one made in 2000 or later with a DBW throttle.

They have the better turbo's and make the GTI slightly more respectable!

You will regret the 2.0 every minute you own it!!!

HTH
Andy

neil360

1,647 posts

212 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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Try a V5 they are smooth and not to slow but are cheap to buy compared with some of the range.

Nicholas Blair

4,109 posts

289 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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I had a 2.0 GTI a few years back - not a bad drive but certainly wouldn't rave about it. 1.8T is better.

Quite why it had a GTi badge though scratchchin

Scoop940

3,961 posts

232 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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2.0 GTI was only badged GTI in the UK..

It's the engine from the MK3 GTI, the original 1.8 20V used was less powerful so they reverted.

The suspension/trim/wheels etc is also different to the 1.8T.

I have a pre DBW 1.8T, came with standard Recaro seats that are way better than the VW sports seats that were the standard on later 1.8Turbo's. Car with Recaro's and climate is definatley worth looking for - plenty of choice out there!

alfaspiderman2

1,136 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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a friend had one from new

recently three of us took our families to cornwall in convoy

me in my A3 2.0 TDi, another in mk5 Golf (same engine) and him in the 2.0 'GTi'

it was absolutely staggering how difficult he found it to keep up - and given that we all had kids on board, we weren't trying

my car is no ball of fire but I certainly couldn't cope with that lack of pace

(oh and the engine pretty much gave up the ghost at 50k miles)

avoid like plague

phlap

563 posts

257 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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neil360 said:
Try a V5 they are smooth and not to slow but are cheap to buy compared with some of the range.

I see your V5 and raise you to a V6 thumbup
Cheap these days, smooooooth engine and 4wd thrown in.

Goochie

5,671 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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Try an Octavia VRS - its quicker, cheaper and bigger than the Golf with a more powerful version of the 1.8T engine.

blanc

221 posts

244 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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I had one of these and found it comfortable, reliable and not very quick.

Current MK5 2.0TDI golf is surprisingly quicker with better steering and handling.

blanc

221 posts

244 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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Don't people ususally go for the Ibiza in this situation?

I'd definitely recommend getting a car with the 1.8T engine if you can.

Goochie

5,671 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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blanc said:
Don't people ususally go for the Ibiza in this situation?

I'd definitely recommend getting a car with the 1.8T engine if you can.


Not usually - the Ibiza is based on the smaller platform.

leosayer

7,363 posts

249 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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The 2.0 is a GTi in badge only.

Get the 1.8T.

StevenJJ

Original Poster:

541 posts

214 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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Cheers all, what was I thinking!

mk1fan

10,622 posts

230 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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If you really want a mkiv then look at the Bora's instead of the Golf's. As you'll get more for your money. They had a better baseline spec to try and tempt in the buyers.

At the end of the day though the mkiv in both Golf and Bora form are a barge in standard trim regardless of what model you go for.

Suspension is the total opersite to Audi's and the turn in is abismal. There is plenty of grip but the car spends the first third of the bend deciding whether to give it up or not!

A Bora 4-motion is arquably one of the best q-cars out there and can be had for a lot less than the equivilant Golf.

If you do get one (a mkiv, any model) change the suspension for the adjustable Koni Sport Line kit, change the rear arb for an uprated item and leave the front alone, and fit a set of S3 upper and lower strut braces up front. All these transform the cars in terms of handling without compromising ride quality. You can upgrade the suspension bushes for Seat Leon Cupra R versions if full neoprene versions are too hard for you.

Finally the 2.0 aren't that bad. They have a smoother engine than a mki GTi but are lugging an extra 2/3's of the weight around! Just buy an SE instead. Same car (different front seats), less money.


Edited by mk1fan on Thursday 1st February 23:18

blanc

221 posts

244 months

Monday 5th February 2007
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Goochie said:
blanc said:
Don't people ususally go for the Ibiza in this situation?

I'd definitely recommend getting a car with the 1.8T engine if you can.


Not usually - the Ibiza is based on the smaller platform.


You're right, I was thinking of the the Leon.