A3 170tdi or golf gt 170tdi

A3 170tdi or golf gt 170tdi

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jambo99

Original Poster:

52 posts

266 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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which is a better buy? Golf would come with cruise and armrest A3 would be optional extras. I have driven Mk 5 golfs and like the way they handle for my weekday work car, how does the A3 compare? Guess you are just paying for the badge??

tvrgaas

1,469 posts

275 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Been considering what if anything to get as the next pair of commuting wheels. Over the last years have had 5 door versions of the new shape Astra 1.8 SRi, a 2.0GT Petrol Golf and the TDi-140 A3 for a 2 day test. None really appeared to tick all the boxes over my old SRi, well not the £20K box anyway! At the moment it's put on hold as we got the last series (1.8T) vRS Octavia. So I'd also be interested to see what other think.
The A3 looked nice, and there was a better range of interiors and colours to choose than with the Golf. There appeared more headroom in the back of the Golf, not that I sit in the back much, but the whole idea is that it can cart the old folks round now and again - not much rear room in the TVR! I kept red lining the TDi, which may be down to me enjoying the test - and the low red line, annoyed me anyway, I guess the 170 could be worse. Then there is always the feeling that you prehaps should have got the GTi. I can understand that for Business use that TDi and cruise control are important, but my rare business miles are usually done in an Airbus.
I can't see me in a Ford ST (ASBO) and as our Check VW (aka Skoda) is looking good value I can see we may be tempted to the new vRS - I hear they even put the 170 TDi these days - it's also in the ugly SEAT. I guess it will come down to the deals on offer at the time.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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shoutBUY THE GOLF

baz1985

3,612 posts

250 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Neither, you can get a £3.5-4k discount on a E87 120d SE. Add Comfort Pack, Xenons and Cruise.

Aesthetcis/build quality not as good as A3, not as practical as Golf, brash image too, but if you're bothered about driving dynamics it is far superior.

agent006

12,058 posts

269 months

Thursday 14th December 2006
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Try the 140 diesel too. A few people who i've spoken to say that there's not much in it between the two engines.

Skoda do the 170tdi in the vRS too, just to make your decision that bit simpler

Roley130

104 posts

216 months

Saturday 16th December 2006
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I've heard the 170 BHP diesel dosn't drive as well as the 140, because of turbo-lag.

hot66

696 posts

222 months

Saturday 16th December 2006
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I've got an A4 with 170tdi motor & love it . I did have a 140 for a week & IMHO the 170 is a MUCH better engine with overtaking etc being fantastic. The only down side is I'm only getting between 35 - 38 mpg on country roads & about 42mpg on motorways.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

227 months

Sunday 17th December 2006
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agent006 said:
Try the 140 diesel too. A few people who i've spoken to say that there's not much in it between the two engines.

Roley130 said:
I've heard the 170 BHP diesel dosn't drive as well as the 140, because of turbo-lag.

This sounds like people with 140's trying to convince themselves they don't need a 170. Not only dose the 170 drive well, VW under play it's performance, road testers have got better 0-60 figures than VW claim (because it's to close to the GTi) The only reason we don't have one, is the 320d was better for motorway crusing, which is 95% of what it will do.

agent006

12,058 posts

269 months

Sunday 17th December 2006
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Fort Jefferson said:
This sounds like people with 140's trying to convince themselves they don't need a 170.


170 didn't exist when we ordered ours, and still isn't available on any skoda bar the vRS.

Robbo66

3,851 posts

238 months

Sunday 17th December 2006
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Just picked up 170 BHP diesel Golf...excellent mid range grunt.

Wife came out of 2.0FSI Cab...8 months old as felt ostentatious. Golf defo better mid range and possibly off the mark.

Bought new from Inchcape..saved £2900 from list, uk main dealer supplied...how the hell the other dealers can survive not being part of that group is a mystery to me.

johnvx220

8 posts

237 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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I have ordered a Seat FR with the 170bhp unit. Have been offered the pbox which brings the power up to the Astra 888. I have heard that 170bhp unit is a "crystal unit". Never heard of this to the other day. The Germans have given up trying to tune this unit according to their forums (so I have been told).
Does anyone out there had this unit fitted to the 170 engine and or heard of problems with this engine. Many thanks.


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Edited by johnvx220 on Tuesday 6th February 17:18

Davel

8,982 posts

263 months

Tuesday 6th February 2007
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Just bought a Golf GT Tdi with 170 ps.

Very impressed so far.

alfaspiderman2

1,136 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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I drive a 140 A3 and have had a 170 A4 as a loan car

the 170 absolutely blows the 140 away in all aspects - pace, refinement, flexibility, even the engine noise it nicer...it almost made me reconsider my 'never again' mantra when it comes to diesels

Davel

8,982 posts

263 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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I'm just amazed how nippy and quiet (when warm) these diesel engines are now!

- or maybe I'm just getting older and slower!

Oh - and deafer too......


Edited by Davel on Wednesday 7th February 17:01

phumy

5,735 posts

242 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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Davel said:
I'm just amazed how nippy and quiet (when warm) these diesel engines are now!

- or maybe I'm just getting older and slower!

Oh - and deafer too......


Edited by Davel on Wednesday 7th February 17:01



YOU WHAT!!!!!! shout



Edited by phumy on Wednesday 7th February 17:15

Davel

8,982 posts

263 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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Pardon?

shout SPEAK UP

Nicholas Blair

4,109 posts

289 months

Friday 9th February 2007
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Just had an Audi A3 170 Quattro dropped on demo - will report back shortly.

Looks stonking in white.