S6 / RS6 differences

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dubbs

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1,590 posts

289 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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Not being an Audi expert....

Can anyone tell me the fundamental differences between the S6 and RS6?

I know the RS6 has wider arches and the V8 is turbocharged (twin?) but what else is changed?

For real world is there a huge difference? I'm bearing in mind this would be a great motorway hooner but would the RS6 handle being thrown about a lot more than the S6 or is the difference more pandering to a whim rather than worth paying 10k extra for. (S6 avant circa 15k, RS6 avant circa 25k)

How do these cars really handle? Not interested in stereotypical answers a la performance car mags, more interested in unbiased real world "I've driven it/owned it" opinions.

Older RS4 (v6) a worthy competitor to these or not worth buying due to being rather dated in comparision?

Thanks for your help folks :-)

angrys3owner

15,855 posts

234 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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I hate posting to other forums, but if you want real owners opinions I'd say go have a look at RS246.com, I'd say the S6 is a fast normal car, an RS6 (which is twin turbo 450BHP) is a supercar that will take 5 people and lots of luggage.

bogie

16,561 posts

277 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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agree with the above - check out RS246.com for specs of both.

I have an RS6 but have driven the B5 S4 and the S6....theres a world apart - an S6 is an A6 with some different trim and a V8 ...its a quick car by 'normal' car standards....the RS6 is something else - with a mild remap you have a 500bhp car, that will do 10.5 to the ton mid to high 4's to 60 and 185mph ...and you can play in the wet or dry

It will stay with (and see off) most 'sportscars' in a straight line...even with a few passengers and luggage...which is most amusing

for an everyday practical proposition then I dont think the combination of power, grip, comfort, load carrying, and the level of 'discreetness' can be beat.

Handling wise - its not quite an M5...but the 10% or so it loses out in outright chuckability it makes up 5x over once the rain comes down or on a winters morning....its no sportscar, but drive it smooth and its surprisingly agile at 9/10ths.

krusty

2,472 posts

254 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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Not sure if running costs are similar. You can expect to get through a set of tyres a year ( a few quid short of 200 each ) A service will set you back 600 quid and the cars that are coming into the 'that's affordable' bracket will be nearing 40K miles which is when you need the major belt service which comes in at 12-1500. No matter how I drive it I can't seem to get any different to 19.3mpg as an average. It's also 80 quid to fill up. (about 400 mile range)

badapple

2,265 posts

259 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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I think the rs6 is probably the best performance bargain around at present!
Considering the whole package, and the price even from the main dealers', they are fantastic!

badapple

2,265 posts

259 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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dubbs, i think £25K is little optimistic unless you want the starship enterprise.
30K seems more like it, and if it were me i'd want the warranty!
You also need to account in your purchase for brakes/tyres/upcoming service? As they will amount very quickly!

bogie

16,561 posts

277 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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krusty said:
Not sure if running costs are similar. You can expect to get through a set of tyres a year ( a few quid short of 200 each ) A service will set you back 600 quid and the cars that are coming into the 'that's affordable' bracket will be nearing 40K miles which is when you need the major belt service which comes in at 12-1500. No matter how I drive it I can't seem to get any different to 19.3mpg as an average. It's also 80 quid to fill up. (about 400 mile range)


completely agree...the S6 may be slightly cheaper...but not much..you still have 8 spark plugs, 9.5L oil etc , ...I avg high teens in the RS6, tyre wear is bad for a 'normal' car but good when compared to 'sportscars' (4WD helps) - its a 1.8ton high powered uber wagon so expect consumables/running costs to be high im afraid.

Price wise - unless you have deep pockets then Id buy from a main dealer with Audi extended warranty included - a nice one is £30-35 - you could go high miles/private sale mid £20K's but its still a lot of money, and IIRC the engine/box is £15K+ for a replacement...remember its a niche market job, Cosworth tuned etc and pretty rare and expect prices accordingly...it was a £60 car new ...

dubbs

Original Poster:

1,590 posts

289 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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Thanks for the replies folks....

I'll need to find out more about the RS6 as I've assumed:

S6 = A6 with V8 and better suspension + 4wd
RS6 = S6 plus wider arched and twin turbos

Obviously not true judging by comments.

angrys3owner

15,855 posts

234 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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dubbs said:
I've assumed:

S6 = A6 with V8 and better suspension + 4wd
RS6 = S6 plus wider arched and twin turbos


That's correct in my opinion, however the extra changes made for the RS6 make it a very special car as apposed to a quick normal car.

aeroresh

1,429 posts

237 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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just a note the s6 shares the same wide arches as the RS6 and indeed the A6 4.2 Quattro.

RS6 just had a deeper front spoiler and rear apron fitted.

I ran an S6 Avant for a few years and it was probably the best all round car Ive ever owned.

Not ballistic like the RS in a straight line but there wasnt much that could keep up with it cross country!

rossybee

946 posts

262 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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bogie said:
agree with the above - check out RS246.com for specs of both.

I have an RS6 but have driven the B5 S4 and the S6....theres a world apart - an S6 is an A6 with some different trim and a V8 ...its a quick car by 'normal' car standards....the RS6 is something else - with a mild remap you have a 500bhp car, that will do 10.5 to the ton mid to high 4's to 60 and 185mph ...and you can play in the wet or dry

It will stay with (and see off) most 'sportscars' in a straight line...even with a few passengers and luggage...which is most amusing

for an everyday practical proposition then I dont think the combination of power, grip, comfort, load carrying, and the level of 'discreetness' can be beat.

Handling wise - its not quite an M5...but the 10% or so it loses out in outright chuckability it makes up 5x over once the rain comes down or on a winters morning....its no sportscar, but drive it smooth and its surprisingly agile at 9/10ths.


Couldn't have said better myself

krusty

2,472 posts

254 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Just booked in for an Engine / Gearbox remap.... Hope the difference is as noticeable as people say....

angrys3owner

15,855 posts

234 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Where are you getting it done? I've heard it makes a big difference on the RS6.

krusty

2,472 posts

254 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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AMD and I've heard the same but they're all raving about it on RS246.....

angrys3owner

15,855 posts

234 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Well let us know how you get on, will be interested to know your thoughts on AmDs customer service too.