R32 vs TDI 150 chiped
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r32 had one for a year wot a awsome car!! good looks, nice inteior,great sound, but lets face it is it really that quick ?? i mean we dont all drive around a track all day do we !! had many fast cars over the years inc a 537bhp RS 500 (wot a money pit that was) my tdi is parked streetside no trouble with vandels and wot a laugh to drive yes aroud a tack you R32+S3 boys would waste the TDI but in the real world (busy A roads-the odd traffic jammed outer ring road)the said chipped tdi has caused a few smug smiles latley and that includes 3 R32s
tdi smiles all the way boys !! and doing 40 mpg round town and 55mpg on a run!!
tdi smiles all the way boys !! and doing 40 mpg round town and 55mpg on a run!!
I could post about the arrogance of TDi drivers and their false impression of having a fast car due to raised torque and short gearing, but that's been done to death on here recently so i didn't really see the point.
Before you leap in, i drive a TDi regularly too. It's really not all that fast.
Before you leap in, i drive a TDi regularly too. It's really not all that fast.
agent006 said:
I could post about the arrogance of TDi drivers and their false impression of having a fast car due to raised torque and short gearing, but that's been done to death on here recently so i didn't really see the point.
Before you leap in, i drive a TDi regularly too. It's really not all that fast.
Hi agent, I'm really puzzled by your post, which is similar to others I've seen. To save hijacking this thread I've started a new one on General Gassing, and would be interested in your comments.
I left my Fabia vRS for a MK4 R32.
I have driven loads of decent TDIs and a few remapped ones.
Yes they feel fast, yes the are frugal, yes they give a wallop in the back.
But do you know what, not one of them actually put a smile on my face the way that my 3.2 V6 does as it swings through 6000 rpm making its glorious wail.
:-)
I have driven loads of decent TDIs and a few remapped ones.
Yes they feel fast, yes the are frugal, yes they give a wallop in the back.
But do you know what, not one of them actually put a smile on my face the way that my 3.2 V6 does as it swings through 6000 rpm making its glorious wail.
:-)
Hmmm, I was considering a GT TDi myself. But then I had to slap myself about a bit for considering a diesel!
I have been in a GT TDi at work, and with the 180bhp and the 6 speed box, it really does shift... But then I get the same mpg from my Smart Roadster, and I'm willing to bet on which car would give me more smiles per mile...
The roadster only has 80bhp, but the growling little turbo-charged 3 potter always puts a smile on my face. Couldn't live with a clattery diesel... Sorry!
I do understand about the Golf being practical however, and can see why people do buy them. Very good cars, but nothing that raises my pulse at all...
I have been in a GT TDi at work, and with the 180bhp and the 6 speed box, it really does shift... But then I get the same mpg from my Smart Roadster, and I'm willing to bet on which car would give me more smiles per mile...
The roadster only has 80bhp, but the growling little turbo-charged 3 potter always puts a smile on my face. Couldn't live with a clattery diesel... Sorry!
I do understand about the Golf being practical however, and can see why people do buy them. Very good cars, but nothing that raises my pulse at all...
corradoboy1983 said:
Hmmm, I was considering a GT TDi myself. But then I had to slap myself about a bit for considering a diesel!
I have been in a GT TDi at work, and with the 180bhp and the 6 speed box, it really does shift... But then I get the same mpg from my Smart Roadster, and I'm willing to bet on which car would give me more smiles per mile...
The roadster only has 80bhp, but the growling little turbo-charged 3 potter always puts a smile on my face. Couldn't live with a clattery diesel... Sorry!
I do understand about the Golf being practical however, and can see why people do buy them. Very good cars, but nothing that raises my pulse at all...
Well thank you for your pointless input to this thread, I'm sure we'll all be going out and buying an 80bhp smart car now
if you compare the cold facts and add a healthy dose of 'everyday-ness' then a modern TDi is hard to argue against
that's what I did when I swapped my 2.0 Twin Spark Alfa for a 2.0 TDi A3 - and boy do I regret it!
no longer to I look forward to driving
no longer do people nod appreciation at my choice of car
no longer do I switch off the radio and wind down the windows to hear 6k rpm in 2nd
etc
etc
TDis may be quickish, they may be economicalish but they are dull as hell to drive and no way on gods earth will I consider another one
end of rant
that's what I did when I swapped my 2.0 Twin Spark Alfa for a 2.0 TDi A3 - and boy do I regret it!
no longer to I look forward to driving
no longer do people nod appreciation at my choice of car
no longer do I switch off the radio and wind down the windows to hear 6k rpm in 2nd
etc
etc
TDis may be quickish, they may be economicalish but they are dull as hell to drive and no way on gods earth will I consider another one
end of rant
davevag said:
Hmmm, I was considering a GT TDi myself. But then I had to slap myself about a bit for considering a diesel!
I have been in a GT TDi at work, and with the 180bhp and the 6 speed box, it really does shift... But then I get the same mpg from my Smart Roadster, and I'm willing to bet on which car would give me more smiles per mile...
The roadster only has 80bhp, but the growling little turbo-charged 3 potter always puts a smile on my face. Couldn't live with a clattery diesel... Sorry!
I do understand about the Golf being practical however, and can see why people do buy them. Very good cars, but nothing that raises my pulse at all...
Well thank you for your pointless input to this thread, I'm sure we'll all be going out and buying an 80bhp smart car now
Pot calling Kettle or what!
What has happened to the normally friendly VAGina forum then?
Back to the topic, I genuninely feel that even fast diesels are a bit overated, (although I have to admit I havenot driven a lot of them) purely because ou have a limited rev range to apply the torque and while you are changing gear a petrol is well on its way to the redline. As others have stated they just don't have the feel of a thrashing a petrol slipping up and down through the gears and general
Cheers,
Steve.
davevag said:
Well thank you for your pointless input to this thread, I'm sure we'll all be going out and buying an 80bhp smart car now
Well thankyou for discounting my opinion based on the car I drive mate. Obviously, despite my previous motoring experience, I'm highly unqualified to have any opinions on cars... Hey, what would I know? Obviously BHP is all that makes a car!
Honestly, the amount of nonce's I've come across with the same kind of opinion as yourself... Maybe I should buy a diesel Polo eh mate? Then I'd know what a "real" car was like? :-D
Fat Audi 80 said:
I genuninely feel that even fast diesels are a bit overated, (although I have to admit I havenot driven a lot of them) purely because ou have a limited rev range to apply the torque and while you are changing gear a petrol is well on its way to the redline. As others have stated they just don't have the feel of a thrashing a petrol slipping up and down through the gears and general
Cheers,
Steve.
Fully agree mate. I think that was the point that I was getting at in my first post :-)
Diesels have their place, but they generally don't feel as "sporty" as a petrol. I find the driving experience is a mixture of the sound, the feel and the smell...
Here we go again...
I have no quarms in saying I dislike dervs, yes real world planet moving torque, 48776mpg yada yada yada. But it sounds like a tractor, has to change gear as soon as the minute powerband has gone and belches black smoke when you floor it. Give me a turbo'd equivilent petrol anytime! I don't deny in short bursts they will suprise a lot of petrol cars due to the instant urge but not my cup of tea.
>> Edited by 225 on Thursday 11th May 14:55
I have no quarms in saying I dislike dervs, yes real world planet moving torque, 48776mpg yada yada yada. But it sounds like a tractor, has to change gear as soon as the minute powerband has gone and belches black smoke when you floor it. Give me a turbo'd equivilent petrol anytime! I don't deny in short bursts they will suprise a lot of petrol cars due to the instant urge but not my cup of tea.
>> Edited by 225 on Thursday 11th May 14:55
alfaspiderman2 said:
if you compare the cold facts and add a healthy dose of 'everyday-ness' then a modern TDi is hard to argue against
that's what I did when I swapped my 2.0 Twin Spark Alfa for a 2.0 TDi A3 - and boy do I regret it!
no longer to I look forward to driving
no longer do people nod appreciation at my choice of car
no longer do I switch off the radio and wind down the windows to hear 6k rpm in 2nd
etc
etc
TDis may be quickish, they may be economicalish but they are dull as hell to drive and no way on gods earth will I consider another one
end of rant
I think you'd have thought the same whichever A3 you bought.
With the exception of the current Golf gti, I think you'll find almost all VAG cars are as dull as dishwater. As is every heavy, 4-pot, fwd car, possibly.
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