Mk2 Parts

[Tripps]

I'm looking to replace all the brake pads, rear and possibly front discs on the car quite soon as someone has made a bit of a mess of the brake work in the past leaving me with intermittent braking right now!

Any suggestions as to good suppliers for after-market Mk2 GTi performance parts? I'm looking to fit fast road kit as the car will be thrashed well and may well attend a track day or two.


>> Edited by Tripps on Tuesday 28th March 11:40

[greatgranny]

www.gsfcarparts.com/

Not used them but have a lot of stuff.

You also try asking on Clubgti or Golfgti or Edition38 forums.

[Tripps]

greatgranny said:

www.gsfcarparts.com/

Cheers GreatGranny, that's just the sort of place I've been looking for

Now I'm keen to go for Pagid Fast Road pads, should I get them front and back or just concentrate on the front? My preference (which saves a few £ too) is front only as the braking is a little too biased to the rear anyway.

Disc wise I'm also debating between performance and standard kit, as the braking of the car was always very good (especially as it's 15 years old) so is it worth spending more than four times as much on performance discs?

[iguana]

Tripps said:

so is it worth spending more than four times as much on performance discs?

No

Pagid FR pads & stock VW OEM stuff is fine.

If you really want better brakes spend that dosh on going G60/280


>> Edited by iguana on Tuesday 28th March 23:23

[Tripps]

iguana said:

Pagid FR pads & stock VW OEM stuff is fine. If you really want better brakes spend that dosh on going G60/280

Excellent news, I'd thought they would be OK, but hearing it from someone who's had more experience with them than myself is reassuring.

What is involved fitting G60 kit then, new discs and pads obviously, new calipers and hubs too?

I can see this becoming a project car in the stable over time, as I'm really enjoying the oppurtunity to gets my hands all oily

>> Edited by Tripps on Wednesday 29th March 08:42

[greatgranny]

Tripps said:

iguana said: Pagid FR pads & stock VW OEM stuff is fine. If you really want better brakes spend that dosh on going G60/280 Excellent news, I'd thought they would be OK, but hearing it from someone who's had more experience with them than myself is reassuring. What is involved fitting G60 kit then, new discs and pads obviously, new calipers and hubs too? I can see this becoming a project car in the stable over time, as I'm really enjoying the oppurtunity to gets my hands all oily >> Edited by Tripps on Wednesday 29th March 08:42

Not fitted them myself but I think unless you have a late (91/92) GTI you will need hubs as well.

[Tripps]

greatgranny said:

Not fitted them myself but I think unless you have a late (91/92) GTI you will need hubs as well.

Mine's a September '91 8v...

Can't see the advantage though unless I go all out down that route with performance G60 bits, as I don't think the standard G60 parts would offer much (if any) advantage over using performnace GTi parts in terms of retardation and fade.

Ugrading to performance pads and getting a new set of standard discs is very cheap (£60 for all 4 discs, £50 for the pads, plus VAT), performance front discs adds another £70 or so, but going for just the extra calipers and hubs for the G60 front starts getting into big number, looking at Awesome GTI it requires 280mm discs, pads, servo & master cylinder, calipers, caliper carriers, hub carriers and bottom ball joints, at at cost of £425+vat and that's with 2nd hand servo and master cylinder - more than I paid for my car for all of that!

[iguana]

Tripps said:

I don't think the standard G60 parts would offer much (if any) advantage over using performnace GTi parts in terms of retardation and fade.

Well I disagree, from 239 the diference is large- tho 256mm stuff is fine & a good upgrade from the 239mm that you will have on an 8v (ive heard rumoured late 8v had 256- but none of mine had) but when you can have 280 for same cost as 256 its worth going direct to 280 if you can- I didnt & wish I had done at the time, tho 256mm does cope suprisingly well but 280 is a step further.



Don't need to change servo for 239 to 256 & thus I don't think for 280 either?

[Bomber Denton]

Rob, on my Mk2 I had the best I could set up, G60 front legs with 280mm Black diamond discs and pads, with the smaller equivalent on the rear coupled to Mk3 calipers, 6 line Goodridge brake kit, big servo and Dot 5 fluid.

The 280mm kit is becoming quite sought after as there weren't that many cars to start with (you need the stub axles the lot) so price is a premium.

I take it from this you are not intending to spend the earth? If so uprate the standard size discs and pads as required and go for some cheap mods, the post 1990 16V had a bigger servo and is readily available second hand, couple this with some Goodridge lines and fresh fluid and you will tranform the pedal feel for low money.

Come to think of it I might have a servo and a couple of Mk3 rear calipers kicking around in the garage, if I do I'll let you have them next time I'm up. (I'm a Mk1 Golf man only now! )

The benefit of the Mk 3 caliper is that it doesn't seize or stick like the Mk2 always does.

My brake parts came from here...

www.proven-products.co.uk/

[Tripps]

Bomber Denton said:

I take it from this you are not intending to spend the earth? If so uprate the standard size discs and pads as required and go for some cheap mods, the post 1990 16V had a bigger servo and is readily available second hand, couple this with some Goodridge lines and fresh fluid and you will tranform the pedal feel for low money. Come to think of it I might have a servo and a couple of Mk3 rear calipers kicking around in the garage, if I do I'll let you have them next time I'm up. (I'm a Mk1 Golf man only now! ) The benefit of the Mk 3 caliper is that it doesn't seize or stick like the Mk2 always does.

Keeping it sensible yes, saving the pennies for the wife's new car and the Cerbera 2 The Golf is likely to become the 4th car next year, so more of a tinkering toy rather than a money pit for me, so what I'm doing is pretty much what you've suggested although I might leave the servo for now.

Not got the time right now to do it myself though, so popping it into a local VW specialist to fit all the parts I'be bought, hopefully will have finished stripping it all down by the time it needs to go tomorrow.

The advice on seizing rear callipers is interesting though, as that's precisely what started all this, the rear discs have 2mm of grinding where the pads have been pushed hard into them, will see what the garage says, but if they need replacing Mk3 seems the way to go...